Donald Trump’s electoral rampage through the Northeastern states and then his stunning Indiana victory – taking all but five counties statewide and walking away with 57 delegates – did a lot more than drive Ted Cruz and John Kasich out of the race.
It has driven a stake in the heart of the post-1988 Republican Party. It’s dead.
The “professional” party has been in death throes for years, for a variety of reasons, but none as lethal as the absence of a defining and unifying rationale for its existence that resonated with its own membership.
What does the Party stand for? And who decides that?
No sooner had The Donald driven his rivals from the field of battle, than the self-appointed guardians of “conservatism,” already in panic mode, began pouring out opinions, curses, and threats – all somewhat hysterically.
If only they could find the same passion about the most destructive force America has ever known; Barack Obama.
Columnists George Will and Charles Krauthammer launched scathing articles explaining their “never Trump” positions as the last defense of “conservatism,” joined by the house pets in the big newspapers. They’ve been followed by others trash-talking Trump and talking about “real conservatives,” and what they should or shouldn’t do. These include conservative media outlets such as Red State, National Review and Conservative Review.
The Weekly Standard’s William Kristol is evidently the self-appointed leader of an effort to mount a third party challenge to Trump intoning the name of Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska as its possible standard bearer, who for his part has also said he can’t support the Party nominee because he has to save “conservatism.”
The Bushes have let it be known that they aren’t endorsing anyone. Ditto the Koch brothers. Romney, who famously claimed to be “seriously conservative,” won’t be at the convention. After all, what do any of them owe to the Party that supported and defended them with sweat and money?
On Capitol Hill, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, oblivious to the primary results evidently, said today that “he is not ready to endorse Trump,” adding that, “I think conservatives want to know, does [Trump] share our values and our principles.”
Speaker Ryan had previously laid claim to the speakership for all conservatives and the right to define “conservative,” by rebuking Trump’s call for a temporary ban on Muslim’s entering the country until the U.S. government could properly identify them, this following the San Bernardino terrorist attack. “This is not conservatism,” Ryan thumped. ”What [Trump proposed] is not what this party stands for, and more importantly, it’s not what this country stands for.”
All I can say is, what are these people talking about?
Aren’t these the same people by and large who sat back in the Bush years and supported vastly expanded government spending, and helped turn education over to the federal government? To say nothing of two wars that were not concluded victoriously, but shackled by rules of engagement and petty infighting.
Is any of that conservative?
Aren’t these the same folks who laid down in front of Obama like they were flower petals tossed at a wedding?
When the Supreme Court overturned 5,000 years of tradition weren’t these by and large the same people who told us to suck it up and live with it? Is that conservative?
A lot of them, like Sen. Sasse, talk about the Constitution a lot. That’s nice. Here’s a few questions: Where were they in the last eight years as an American President dared them to impeach him, ignored separation of powers, laws, funded unlawful programs, forced the BATF to run guns and the IRS to harass conservative groups, abandoned four Americans in Benghazi, and gave Iran $150 billion dollars by confirming that the treaty with Iran wasn’t really a treaty at all?
Any of that conservative?
What the “professional” Party has been good at is subjecting their frustrated members out in the real world to lectures claiming that unregulated, wide open immigration is conservative, and that illegal entry into the U.S. should be rewarded with citizenship because it is a conservative value. We’re told that a conservative believes in the “willing worker” model; that any person in the world has a right to come into the U.S. on a visa to compete with any American citizen for any job at any wage.
The professionals have also been good at pushing “free trade” like it was cotton candy at a child’s birthday party. It is now the sacred mantra of being a conservative – “free trade!”
I want free trade; the empirical evidence of the benefits of free trade are well established economic facts. There is no doubt about that.
But the truth is that, starting with NAFTA, we have learned that we have been snookered. These aren’t free trade agreements defined as two or more countries deciding to treat each others products and services reciprocally; instead, it is managed corporate trade. We allow many countries to ship goods into the U.S. with little to no tax, while American goods are subjected to a withering variety of consumption and other taxes hidden in the host economy, currency manipulation, and are hobbled with rules and regulations that no domestic company must comply with. The end result it that millions of jobs and untold wealth have left the U.S. for someone else’s benefit.
Empty factories stand like tombstones to a disappearing self-determination; while several “conservative” prognosticators claim that the towns and the American citizens those factories supported deserve to “die.” Literally.
So, many of us are scratching our heads and asking, “What the hell is “conservative” about uncontrolled immigration and corporate trade pacts?”
Sometimes it take massive pain to bring us – individually or corporately – to the end of our resources and allow us to realistically reevaluate our destination. I believe that is where the larger “conservative” movement is now.
Perhaps, just perhaps, Donald Trump is the spark that will allow the grassroots to bury the dead “professional” Republican Party, and to rebirth a conservative Republican Party that has clear principles that honor our past and make a way for our future.
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[…] Many of us have written time and again that the Party gave up on the voters, not the other way around. The American people don’t need moralizing by the very people who have lead the country into the mess that it is in currently (see my article Death Comes for the Party, 2016, read here). […]
Brilliant!!!! You have hit the proverbial nail squarely on the head Michael Giere. These very same people fighting Trump now, should have been saying the very same things Trump has. If they had they would have never given rise to Trump, because Trump would have never needed to jump into a race to become President to save this nation.
Great article. When moderate and liberal Republicans could not defeat Reagan, they responded by co-opting the word conservative. Led by H.W. Bush they said “We are all conservatives”. The word conservative now means nothing. Those who use the word should be required to define themselves with other words.
Well said.
It would be more accurate to say that death will come to the conservative movement when Cruz dropped out of the race and Trump became the prospective nominee for President. Michael Giere fails to recognize that there are two groups who oppose the existing establishment. One of them is Donald Trump and his supporters. The other is Cruz and his supporters. Giere and other Trump supporters believe he is a conservative because of what he says, but they ignore his entire life history of supporting liberals and their radical causes. But Trump has already stated in his policy speeches that he would replace the existing establishment with his own Czars. The difference between the two opposition groups to the existing establishment is that unlike Trump, Cruz would have kept his promises. Trump will not, and has already reneged on many issues that his supporters counted on him to honor. And that is just the beginning. Trump has always been a big government liberal, and if he gets elected, those who elected him will be weeping and gnashing their teeth in disbelief at the depths of his betrayal.
Except that The Donald would win where none of our formerly above could.
You think Trump is the debbil, I think the dems are. Time will tell.
You pays your money and you takes your chances.
Trump is a disciplinarian. Much needed in many quarters. Louie Goehmert wants Trump to apologize so the pouters will unite. I don’t think that will happen.
Excellent article. Thank you for telling it like it is. Trump 2016
The answer to your “what the hell” question is nothing. Sadly that is the same answer to “What the hell is conservative about Donald Trump?” A crony socialist who supports amnesty, single payer health care and corporate welfare and kleptocracy is an absolutely idiotic choice for those who dislike the bent of our current Republican politicians.
The saddest part is that he is the most eligible, electable, conservative that we could muster.
But, you go to war with the army you have.
Heal quickly, the Party and Trump candidacy/presidency will need a lot of good people just like you!
No he is not… not by a long shot.
First, the birtherism is especially ridiculous given that Cruz was ruled eligible because he is a natural born citizen by several courts already.
Second, under no definition of “conservative” does Trump qualify. He has been a liberal progressive his entire life. That did not change at his advanced age just because he lied to get votes (as evidenced by his many, many, MANY statements during the primaries that conform to his stated, lifelong beliefs).
Third, there is no evidence that Trump is electable.
One isn’t ‘ruled’ a natural born citizen — one is, or one isn’t. You may learn about this at your leisure rather than us being smacked down by the courts, media, and populace.
We have no presumptive nominee that is more conservative than our Donald.
Uh, getting elected our nominee via a bunch of state-wide ‘elections’ kinda indicates otherwise.
I’m very sorry that the party has gone in a different direction than you’ve desired — hopefully you will come to appreciate and respect President Trump. Have a nice day.
Rocinante… You are correct. Cruz is a natural born citizen even without those ruling. I would have thought, though, would have deterred folks like you from that particular line of crazy.
It’s hard not to slip when trying to follow the tortuous logic path that makes both Ted Cruz and Winston Churchill natural born citizens.
I’m only just following the constitution, you may have 4 years to amend it or have the cloud cuckoo folk add it to their ‘Convention of the States’ fantasy.
If you’re successful, I’ll probably join you in supporting him in a noble futile challenge!
No you are not “just following the Constitution” as there is no definition of “natural born citizen” to be had in it. The first congress did define it though and that definition included children “born across the seas” to American citizens. Originally, natural born citizenship could only pass through a child’s father if he was married to the mother. That was later expanded to allow natural born citizenship to pass through a child’s mother also.
No convention of the states is necessary… all it takes is for birthers to stop insisting on facts not in evidence.
Right, just as there are no definitions of words such as militia, bear, arms, press, etc. It is not a dictionary, nor was a Google and the Interwebs as readily available as today.
The constitution DOES define the citizenship requirements for Representative, Senator, and President : US Citizen, US Citizen, and natural born Citizen respectively. (one of these things is not like the other)
Congress gets to determine who is a US Citizen. The Constitution determines what qualifies them for national office.
Ted Cruz either became a US Citizen (Reagan Amnesty?)
or is a US Citizen through Moms Cruz
(assuming she maintained her US Citizenship in between her marriage to the expat in England, her Canadian residence married to the Canadian Citizen – Ted’s Dad – and That 70’s relocation to Texas.)
For the purpose of debate I’m granting that Ted most definitely is a US Citizen — please don’t try to make “natural born citizenship” a thing with semantics and half-truths and contort US Citizenship into ‘natural born.’
And a subsequent congress repealed the law you spake of in its entirety.
Also noted repeated use of “Birther” as a perjorative and TV Law term “facts not in evidence.”
If we want Texas Ted to be President in 2024, we’re going to need to amend the Constitution.
Rocinante… so just for the purposes of debate you will grant that he is a citizen at all?
Yeah, I am not the one dealing in half truths and semantics.
And if you consider “Birther” a pejorative well… so do I. In this case, it is very appropriate. That particular argument against Ted Cruz is crazy and conspiracy minded.
P.S. When you are treating the rantings of Alan Grayson as fact, you should seriously be reconsidering your life choices.
I’ve seen his Canadian Birth certificate (with moms’ 1st married name), I’ve seen his certificate of Canadian Citizenship, I’ve seen Moms Birth Certificate. Ted’s dad told public media that he and wife were both Canadian citizens.
No consular birth record — Canadian and school records sealed.
Unless you’ve seen them or other records elsewhere, it is a leap of faith to assume anything with Mystery Ted.
Noticed you attack and have no reason nor rationale. Your Alinsky tactics are of little use here, Rocinante don’t play dat!
But, please tell me about that Constitution needing ‘channelling’ for your guy to be eligible.
Don’t be sad though, The Donald could put Cruz in as Veep to buy off Ryan.
P.S. I was in before the Grayson.
Birther.
Concession accepted!
Not even close… just an acknowledgement that you can’t argue with crazy so it’s better to just name it and move on.
After the 2014 elections I seceded from the RNC. Not 48 hours after they won the Senate, did they signal they wanted to continue to keep things going as usual. basically since 2010 and 2014, the obamunist agenda has slowed down from 70mph to 65mph.
They have no one to blame for the rise of Trump, than themselves. It was their failure to advance a conservative agenda and stop Obama that brought us to this point. Trump is the big reset on politics as usual, and that’s more than alright with me.
See, I agree with the sentiment – yeah, Republicans haven’t been doing anything for the conservative cause, they bicker about nonsense, focus on stuff we don’t care about, etc. I’ve been TEA party since the beginning, 100%, and very conservative, but Trump … really ? I just don’t get it. The guy is a loudmouth, self-centered, he can hardly open his mouth without it being about himself in some way, I don’t think I’ve ever seen him say something he was going to do for the country unless it was said like a sales pitch trying to convince people to vote for him. I just don’t get it. There were tons of establishment corporatism robots, but there were also a few decent candidates, I mean at least a few have records of actually voting against Obama’s agenda, or fighting teacher’s unions and public service unionism at the state level as governor. Trump ? Like I said twice above, I just don’t get it. He’d be like my last choice to speak for me. I’m not sure I’d let him mow my lawn, I just don’t trust the guy. We also had some actual candidates who didn’t come from privilege, and for all Trump’s crap about being a self-made man, his father owned a real estate empire in New York, and Trump had anything he wanted from an early age. Whatever people see in Trump when he talks, I don’t see it – whenever he opens his mouth all I heard is me this, me that, me me me me, the guy is a snake oil salesman. But hey, I guess there’s a reason there were snake oil salesmen, .. someone obviously bought that &^%$.
Yes, that’s ok because the Republicans get to pick the nominees while the Tea Party gets to pretend to be relevant, and solve the problems of the world from an easy chair. You just keep shaking that fist, we’ll do the heavy lifting so you may conserve energy to run the yap.
I have no idea what to think about it, honestly.
On the one hand, if you go and read Trump’s policy statements on his website, they sound great – 2nd amendment, Obamacare repeal, etc, it mostly sounds sane and normal, except for weird stuff like his “wall”. Still, even with a few weird things, it’s not that unreasonable.
Then on the other hand, Trump opens his mouth and talks.
Great points! The Republican Party is dead! Long live the Republican Party!
OK, I think this is my favorite article ever. And even better that it comes from one who backed the other guy. Mike is my kind of Republican! Also, bonus points for tricky title!
So now many of the party players are putting on a new face of acceptance for Trump? Others are screaming No Way, NO how!
What to believe… I think I have to believe the horse is being set up for the slaughter house if he can’t be co-opted into wearing a new saddle.
The trick is to not spook his herd.
Between the Cruz fantasiders, and the current crop of ‘modified’ party people, I am really clearing out the rolodex!
It is indeed philosophically tragic when the establishment RINO’s I love to hate behave more like Reagan Republicans than the pantomime Conservatives who like to sign things ‘In Liberty’…. As If!
Truthful in every word and statement written. For myself I’m not going to waste the effort and energy to engage in endless debate with the Republican Party elite and their enablers over, what is and who is, the “real” conservative in today’s debased political environment. Mr. Giere has shown the light on the useful path to answer that question, Just look at the policies and positions and ask yourself if they benefit the American middle and working class or are positioned to do nothing more then further the economic interests of an entrenched globalist elite whose main concerns are very far from the well being of the struggling American public.
What still hasn’t completely dawned among this ilk at both the national and state party levels is the only power they EVER had was in the vote of the party base, not the media political gurus, not the money brokers, not the influence peddling parasites clustered around the Potomac, and not self congratulatory fellow colleagues. The Republican base has walked away from the lies and failure to support their economic and social well being. They are NOT coming back, your baggage has been dropped by the side of the tracks and the train in proceeding on with the party base aboard. Rant, plead, accuse, blame, it will all be to no avail, your time is over, having never grasped the lesson that Donald Trump did nothing here other then provide a catalyst, the outcome and it’s cause is your’s and your’s alone to own.
You said it best a few months ago. Donald Trump is an agent of change. He may not be perfect, but what we will collectively be able to accomplish through him is considerable.
Trump is his own man, but he substantially reminds me of Theodore Roosevelt who used the force of his personality and continually battled blatant government corruption. What we have now is legalized corruption (Trump is fond of saying the system is rigged). The good ole boy system of DC is seriously threatened as is the entire political class.
The refreshing part is that Trump demonstrates that We the People are still in control. Despite all the attacks from myriad forces against Trump, the people still pushed him forward. The power of the vote reigns supreme.
The voter’s major challenge ahead in my opinion will be to avoid wasting our energies at all cost from being dragged back into a fruitless revisiting of event rationalizations, political terminology debates and #NeverTrump mania. Political career professionals will either accept the new political state and adjust accordingly or consume each other in self inflicted blame mongering, death throes bring little of value when it comes to building a future.
Our task as voters is to hold Donald Trump completely and with absolute conviction to his campaign statements of policy and do everything within our ability, using the power of the vote, to provide him with the tools and personnel to accomplish these commitments. Frankly this is something the base has not been particularly good at achieving, as the results of 2010, 2012 and 2014 unfortunately demonstrate. This must change and Trump must fully understand that he must work diligently to deliver on his campaign positions.
The Republican Congress under Speaker Ryan will without a doubt be an issue but we have seen plenty of useless rhetoric and broken promises, the time has come to see some policy action. If the power of a reforming vote can move aside the party’s stranglehold on presidential nominations, we can surely clear a path for change in the Republican Congress. If that means we might lose a few seats to send the message and remove the deadwood, so be it.
I agree as a Trump supporter we must hold him to task and assist him in accomplishing commitments to America.
Trump says ” we are going to do things properly ” , ” America first “.
Yes the party of America.
but he has no idea how to do any of those things. Buzz words only, no plan and no advisors that can provide one. You are supporting a walking billboard, not a leader and definitely not a world leader
Another great article Mr. Giere.
Imagine 40 years ago it was reported that a gov’t quasi-agency was selling baby body parts to the highest bidder. One would have thought that a Jewish reporter dug up this information while hunting Nazis, and body parts were sold after one of Josef Mengele’s experiments.
But no, our current conservative leadership supports and backs up US taxpayers paying for this butchery.
Y’all disgust me, all of you.
Good Riddance!
And please don’t reply saying Trump supports Planned Parenthood. He didn’t use my money to help sell baby brains.
But he wants to put that in the party platform. He said that.
He said he had “evolved” since then.
If Trump said he wants to support PP in the platform, ( I have no reason to disbelieve you), then screw him on that issue. But, I will still support him. The other issues are much more important to me. Moreover, the list of Cuckservatives that are renouncing him, Lindsey Gramnesty being the latest, the more I like it.
Cheers bonnie1.
From “on the issues …”
http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm
Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
Planned Parenthood does great work on women’s health. (Feb 2016)
Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)
I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)
This Planned Parenthood thing should not be a policy debate, i.e., a debate on how good, bad or indifferent. It is a public law mandate, i.e., the Constitution for the united States does not permit funding of Planned Parenthood period.
The question is: do we operate in Law or outside of Law. Are we a Lawful people or are we a lawless people?
All of those statements are true to some extent.
Lindsey should be stripped of the R after his name. All that crap they gave Trump and signing the pledge! Ryan as well. He is the LEADER of the house and should… MUST help unify not dump all that responsibility on Trump. Ryan and Co are the REASON TRUMP destroyed them!
Hear Hear!
He might not have the votes for that.
How do you intend to change Washington, without campaign and PAC finance reform? Washington is all about corruption. People go there for one reason, that is where the money is.
Read what the Bible says about the love of money.
Mandate full disclosure, let people give whatever they want and put in harsh penalties for non-disclosure. The American people know the right thing to do.
as soon as you can keep your bible out of politics, you might encourage more people to consider GOP candidates
Mike … this is a good article reinforcing you’re thoughts here: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/buchanan/republicans-reject-bush-at-last/
Thanks, even Pat Buchanan is climbing aboard the Mike Giere train!
An outstanding indictment of the hypocrites.
Trump’s response to Ryan not supporting him,” I can’t support Ryan’s agenda!”was priceless.
so, do we really need a president who is fighting with congress and a congress who fights with the president. It was bad enough when the GOP took that position 8 years ago that they would try to block any and all Obama actions and stall all progress on all subjects. How will this change with Trump and Ryan fighting? At least, Hillary and congress have the possibility of action – nothing with ever get done with Trump
Yes, yes we do.
You may be happy with the things that Obama and the Congress have done, I am not.
I want our branches of government to be fighting, and I want the media to be telling us about it.
Trump will show those in cahoots the door. If Ryan wants to remain 3rd in line, he should focus on listening to the American people.
you want fighting with no progress? You only care about power, not the country then. Good for you. Bad for 300 million others
I would prefer that you keep your Obama/Congress progress to yourself. And I would suggest you pay more attention to your civics and history studies.
your preference is not my concern. my concern is my kid’s future.
Then go ahead and roll with the dems, I’m sure they have the best interest of your child in mind — after all, it takes a fundamentally transformed village…
that’s kind of the point of divided government
the point of govt is to do nothing?
Read or reread The Federalist papers and then the anti-federalist papers, and then please tell us the point of government accordingly.
Hillary will be in jail so that is a moot point.
No, not jail — ‘health issues’ or one of them pardons she used to sell.
“So, many of us are scratching our heads and asking, “What the hell is “conservative” about uncontrolled immigration and corporate trade pacts?”
True, Michael, and even more of us are scratching our heads and asking, “What the hell is wrong with people who, having been lied to repeatedly by Republican Congressmen and Senators, are now falling yet again for another polished liar who will do nothing about uncontrolled immigration or trade pacts?”
In 2012, Donald Trump called Romney’s suggestion that illegals self-deport “mean-spirited and maniacal,” saying many illegals were “wonderful” people who just wanted to live the American Dream. It’s obvious that Trump noted the profound and entirely justified anger at the 2014 Republican Congress betraying its base. It’s obvious Trump decided to switch the Trump Train from the liberal track to the conservative track. And it’s obvious Trump has no political principles — only the personal principle of advancing Trump. His whole life story predicts he’s going to advance Trump, and demagogue and make deals and schmooze with the Establishment as much as is necessary to do that. That’s happened right in front of everyone’s eyes.
What true Conservatives must consider — looking at the long run, perhaps over a span of 10-20 years, which many of us will not live to see — is how movement conservatism will deal with the disastrous expansion of big-government rule and social degradation that Donald Trump will further enable if elected.
We may have already lost the country to the South American political model — left wing and right wing parties with no core Constitutional principles, just rival oligarchies and their peasant supporters fighting for ascendancy and control of an increasingly tenuous government budget. Whatever, Conservatives must avoid becoming part of that and stand clearly and distinctly for something higher, like the founding documents and their principles. That won’t win elections in the increasingly secular, money-worshiping and degraded culture of today, but it will at least keep the principles alive that once held this incredible nation together and made it work. Maybe one day people will give them another look. Depending on events over the next few years, it may even be time for a new party based on those principles.
Yours is a good question — what is conservatism all about? Conservatism, like Liberalism, these are manufactured labels used by the establishment to keep us focused where they want us to be.
If we spent our time investigating the word Constitutionalist and knew what it mean, we’d be much further down the road by now. Argue for liberty and unalienable Rights, not conservatism.
I think I understand your point, dave. Many, in not most, of the Republicans who’ve attained high office, who have betrayed the grassroots, and have gotten us into this mess, have described themselves as “conservatives” at one point or other, so the word has taken on a negative connotation in many people’s minds.
You’re right that arguing for “liberty and unalienable Rights” probably would appeal to a broad swath of the voting public. You may have noticed, however, that even Progressive Democrats say they are for those things. Liberty, as well as rights, can mean the right to be supported by other people so you are “free” to exercise your liberty. Nancy Pelosi more or less opined that to enjoy liberty (self-actualization) you must be empowered to exercise your “right” to free health care, even if others are forced to pay for it.
Conservatism, on the other hand, defines a specific way of approaching that “liberty and unalienable rights.” Probably highest in the things that guide conseratives is a belief that
there is a higher moral order than man — God — and He granted us those
inalienable rights, so they can’t be taken away by government. The conservative way primarily involves paying due respect to traditional values and institutions and culture. — all things current liberalism and progressives believe can now be thrown aside in the 21st century in order to bring about the new age of equality and happiness and being nice to everyone.
You can find definitions and discussions of conservatism as easy as I can. I think a good place to start is with old Russel Kirk’s 10 characters of it —
http://www.kirkcenter.org/index.php/detail/ten-conservative-principles/
We should make a reading list for Republican officers and office-holders and this should be top of the list.
I disagree. A person might define their “liberty” as being supported. But in a country where all persons have unalienable rights, they can’t force that support from another person. I agree with daverkb. We need to speak in terms of statists and individual rights or liberty and unalienable rights instead of liberal vs. conservative. I can be a total treehugging liberal and still be for individual rights. I can be a total right-wing, extremely religious conservative and still be a statist who wants government to dictate my ways to everyone else. It is and always has been a struggle of individual liberty vs. statism in our country. One of my favorite books The Five Thousand Year Leap: https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Five_Thousand_Year_Leap.html?id=A-3NygAACAAJ&source=kp_cover&hl=en
bonnie1 — right now, today, I am being forced to support other people by buying them health care. Under ObamaCare, my old health policy was cancelled. The only one I can afford under ObamaCare is more expensive and doesn’t cover my prescriptions. As a result, my medical costs are now $5,000 more annually than before ObamaCare.
If you have dealt with this new system, you understand that your premium is adjusted according to your income. The system basically follows the formula of “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”
The rationale behind this change, agreed to by many liberal and moderate Republicans, is that Americans have an inalienable right to health care and government should have the power to redistribute wealth to protect that right. A Conservative is much less likely to agree with that.
It is good that you attempt to define the word ‘Conservatism.’ Because everyone uses the word, but often doing so without any common agreed upon definition. Thus, two people can use the same word in conversation, and mean two different things. And not notice any difference.
Because we are not taught properly, almost no one is able to distinguish between ‘unalienable rights’ and civil rights. I know this to be true because I got a proposed constitutional amending to the Constitution of Virginia pulled in committee just for this reason. And Nancy Pelosi may sound like she is talking unalienable rights, but I assure you that Madame Nancy is always in practice talking civil rights. Kindly remember that we live in a completely counterfeited world wherein nothing is what it seems. Everything is upside down, turned inside out.
I looked at the Kirk Center. My comment is — not too bad, better than most, but not good enough. But I rather go to original sources and read the stuff which the 18th century constitution writers read. Lex Rex is such an example. Thomas Jefferson, Washington, Patrick Henry, everyone of the day read and knew this work.. You can download Lex Rex for free, the complete work as below.
http://www.portagepub.com/dl/caa/sr-lexrex17.pdf
Thanks for writing back. I appreciate your turn of mind.
Never heard of Lex Rex. I’ll look into him.
Lex Rex, literally it means — The Law, The King by Samuel Rutherford and published around 1644. A lot of the basis is scriptural, lots of natural law. It is good just to see how these folks wrote, thought, and believed in. It is a good sight into Puritan thinking, and you can’t understand the 18th century very well without touching upon some of this stuff. Most folks today don’t have a clue. And that is why we are so at loose ends.
Yep. So we can get Trump and live to fight another day, or
we can elect the Dems, whip out the SHTF plan and it’s Bunkertime.
“We’ve made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They invade
our space, and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds, and we fall
back. Not again! The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them PAY for what they’ve done!”
As opposed to what Hilary and/or the dems will bring? The hat is over the fence!
+1000
I’ll trust Senator Jeff Sessions concerning Trump’s Come to Jesus moment on immigration, and if you look at what Hillary is proposing re immigration, it’s to the left of Obama. Hillary would mean open borders. No enforcement. Our country would be gone. The Trump train is the only means of transportation we’ve got out of this mess. If Trump just fixes immigration and gets the economy going (see Larry Kudlow on Trump; he’s a believer), then that HUGE.
I hope your faith in Trump isn’t misplaced, Barb, and that he does the things you want. I just doubt he will. Think about it — both Republicans and Democrats — and Morgan Griffith, heh — want to leave the border porous, for different reasons, but both parties want it that way. What’s Trump going to do about that situation?
He won’t be able to fight both parties’ desire to grant amnesty, etc. I think what he’ll do is strike a “deal” with both sides that makes it look like he’s accomplished his promises on immigration, but basically is a smokescreen. Everyone will be happy. Trump’s texting buddy John Boehner will be happy. Trump’s friend Chuck Shumer will be happy. The media will be happy, and they’ll announce it as a big win for the country.
In 2012, Trump called Romney’s suggestion that illegals self deport “maniacal and mean spirited” and said illegals were “wonderful” people just seeking the American Dream. Then Trump watched the anger of people like you and me when our representatives, like Morgan Griffith, went to Congress and refused to fight Executive Amnesty, etc. Trump saw that anger and decided he’d move to the other side of the issue, and those “wonderful” people all suddenly became Mexican rapists. He’s told the NYT all the hard talk is just a bargaining tactic. His whole life has been telling big lies to gain negotiating positions and power. It’s who he is.
But I’m done with arguing about it, and wouldn’t have even responded if it hadn’t been you commenting, Barb. Again, I hope you’re right and we’re all happy in a few years. I think he’s going to beat Hillary.
I’ll get a party hat ready for you, David!
Damn right Michael. You are the shinning voice of this website. Been challenging all the anti Trump idiots here to tell me…
What did W Bush deliver as conservative? WHAT??? WHAT?? Paul Ryan?
Why didn’t any of you have #NEVER..W? as you mantra? That moron left the US is as bad a debt as any Democrat ever did.
Paul Ryan? He just gave Obama everything IN OBAMA’s words… that he wanted out of the budget deal…
AND you morons keep blathering on about Trump not being conservative? Trump WAS NEVER in government… he never surrendered a budget to Obama or spend like a drunken sailor on shore leave…
And let’s talk about W’s and Ryan’s love of open borders… They have in their careers effectively put into policy a no immigration enforcement situation that is about to swamp what is left of conservatism.
Yes that is right Bearing Drift IDIOTS who read comments here… poor third world immigrants want social services not your bull crap…
Thanks for a great article Michael!
Good article and great comment, Stonewall. W was the worst president in my lifetime. The only two good words I can say about that moron are “Justice Alito.”
The money quote: “Aren’t these the same folks who laid down in front of Obama like they were flower petals tossed at a wedding?”
Yeah – those guys.
Yes indeed. I am happy the party is dead. Trumplicans good, Republicans bad. It is simple.
I hope all you enthusiastic “Trumplicans” are willing to stand at the polls in November, or do you think you will just depend on the same “Republicans” for whom you express derision to do it for you? I have a feeling that all these words of bravado expressed on social media are empty, and we will have quite a few unmanned polls this November when the happy Trump supporters somehow find a way not to get up from their keyboards.
That’s a little confusing. We are where we are now because they have been showing up at the polls more than any traditional candidates constituency.
Actually, the constituency of more traditional candidates combined is larger than the Trump contingent. True, the Trump voters won on plurality.
What I was asking, however, was if the Trump supporters were willing to do the hard work of manning the polls, door knocking, etc. that goes with campaigning. I’ve been trying to build support for over 20 years, and I fear that Trump with all his bombast has blown a lot of it away in one fell swoop. So are people going to put their time where their mouths are? I know, it’s just too cold in November!
In that case nope, I do not expect to see anyone show up at my door and ask me to Make America Great Again (TM) between now and November unless the GOP pays them to do so.
Mostly because The Donald won’t be following the GOP tradition of buying Hobo data systems every few years from their favorite vendors. Orca not even welcome at SeaWorld anymore.
Better than those who lost on singularity or noneularity. Trump will bring new blood into the party and those that prefer ‘big fish, little pond’ will just have to suck it. This ain’t your father’s GOP.
Point – Chris k
Oh yes, because the current Republican strategy has worked so well and the VA RPV/GOP is clearly so healthy and vibrant! HA!
There is more to the party than being a Voter Data Coolie feeding the altar of the professional consulting class on high! Trump has just Patton-slapped the GOP coward in the Med(Big) tent and I, for one, think we deserve it!
Not hardly. I man my polling center every election, and I have 75 signs in my house waiting to go. These days you can make calls from home. People are not as stupid as you claim, and for the first time since forever the AMERICAN PUBLIC is HAPPY w/a candidate. Sorry you are unhappy w/who the AMERICAN PEOPLE have selected and not the GOPEs.
Interesting point. We’ve had people make calls before. I wonder how many will make calls for Trump. My guess is that “burn it down” has won, and There will be very little follow through except for counting on Trump’s YUUUGE personality.
It remains to be seen if the AMERICAN PEOPLE are happy with Trump as a candidate. The polls do not bear out that claim. If you can show me any legitimate hard data to support your claim, I would be interested. From what I’ve seen so far, Trump may bring in some new blood, but he will likely alienate more old and new blood than he brings in.
I don’t follow polls because most are lies and bunk. The only people that are not happy w/Trump are the Chamber of Commerce Republicans, very upset that their cash cow is in big danger. The Criminals of DC are not happy that the American people have said “No More”. They didn’t get the message we weren’t happy when we booted Cantor. They have had opportunity and chance to change the direction of the ship and they didn’t. So now they will pay for not listening.
We have not had a decent POTUS in years, Johnson, Carter, Kennedy, Ford, the Bushes, Nixon,Clinton, all of them worthless. Reagan is the only good POTUS we have had in my lifetime. I am willing to give Trump a chance. It won’t be easy for him just because of the damage that has been done already, and because of the things happening around the world. Regardless of who the candidate is, they will not have an easy time. What I am seeing now by the whining GOP is like when Bush won Florida, the Dems could never resign to themselves they lost. The GOP is having the same problem. If people love this country they will support Trump and not Hillary. Any of the politicians that are boycotting Trump are not patriots, and not good party players. The more they act like this, the more it tells me Trump is the one that will bust up their country club.
I am done w/the lying GOPE’s and their “conservative” BS.
The “damage done” on Trump is mostly self-inflicted. He has made bombastic remarks, flip-flopped on just about every issue, and generally presented himself as uninformed. All we have gotten from Trump is BS, without anything conservative. He is arguably the LEAST conservative of any of the candidates who ran.
I understand how you are mad at Republicans who ran on one thing and did another. But let’s face it, by those standards, Trump is far worse.
Clearly, “Burn it down” is more important. Nothing any of you have said has given people a reason to vote FOR Trump. And again, none of you are going to go out there to do the hard work and try to get your neighbors to vote FOR him. You are more interested in tearing others down. Just like the Sandernistas and the Occutards, leaving a mess for someone else to clean up.
Take over, it’s yours.
Uh, don’t think we are remotely talking about the same thing. But sure, I will be glad to take over and make it mine.
Thanks, would love to compliment you on what you did with it. We will rebuild, make it stronger, faster, better. Starting with an eligible nominee who can get elected, but we’ll always leave a light on for you.
I think what the Trump people will do is similar to the Spanish Inquisition: Burn things (and people) in the name of “purifying.” Loot what they and other have left. End up bankrupt for decades or centuries.
And that is why you are wrong, because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Please run for party office to make sure the cans of Whoop-Ass are targeted justly and correctly!
‘Mostly dead, is not all dead.’ Looks like we have a Miracle Mike to bring us back!