UPDATED: Brian also voted in the democrat primary in 2004. Brian admits to voting for Hillary, here. He is ready for Hillary!
Sully District candidate for Supervisor Brian Schoeneman has voted in Democrat primaries twice in the last decade. In 2006 he voted in the democrat Senate primary between Jim Webb and Harris Miller. He also voted in the democrat Presidential primary between Hillary and Obama in 2008.[read_more] Before you argue that Brian was following Rush Limbaugh’s “Operation Chaos” plan by voting in the democrat primary, Rush didn’t introduce the plan until weeks after Virginia’s February 12th primary. One can only speculate who Brian voted for but I’m betting his vote was cast for Hillary. He seems more like a Hillary guy than an Obama dude. Hillary is more pro-union, like Brian. Obama won the Virginia primary overwhelmingly.
Republicans also held a primary for President in 2008 in which McCain won handily.
So, is Brian “Ready for Hillary” in 2016? Or did he convert to our party after 2008?
Some fun quotes from Brian’s own keyboard here.
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This is embarrassing to Steve Albertson.
This thread is exhausting to read. At the end of the day, the Republicans in Sully District (and I mean voters who show up at the firehouse primary and sign a loyalty pledge not the 20 people in the local Republican club) will decide who they want to represent him. If Brian is truly as bad as the author makes him out to be, he will lose. I can tell you one thing, if Guevara and Litzenberger can’t take all this bad stuff that the author claims is in Brian’s background and turn that into a winning campaign, then neither of them stand a chance against Kathy Smith. At the end of the day, all that matters is winning in November. So why don’t we spend less time kicking people out of the party and making judgements that people “aren’t Republicans” because the ones that have the actual right to make that determination, the firehouse primary voters, will speak soon enough. The voters have the sole right to make that final decision, not this author or anyone else. Respect the process. Respect democracy. And let the voters decide. Y’all have a good night now.
Good comment. Thank you. Unfortunately it will be very difficult for any Republican to win in Sully especially against Kathy Smith who is a long time school board member and well known and well liked in the district.
It’s not solely Brian’s background that will keep him from winning but the malady from which he suffers, Obnoxious Personality Disorder. He’s an unpopular, pompous, arrogant, holier-than-thou, smarter-than-everyone-else jerk. But other than that, he’s a helluva guy.
Tell us again how you don’t have a vendetta against Brian Schoeneman.
but you said he wasn’t a Republican so why are you even worried about him?
Speaking of Guevara and Litzenberger, where are they? Haven’t heard Jeanine write a thing about them. Only Brian.
“Respect the process. Respect democracy.”
You know, I seem to remember people saying the exact same thing not very long ago. It was when Cantor’s minions were bringing in Democrats to help slate Republicans out of the local parties. As far as saying the only thing that matters is winning in November.. well.. if the national Republican leadership is any example I’d just as soon vote for a Democrat.
They are more trustworthy when it comes to their agenda.
look at it this way. Dems voted in the Cantor/Brat primary. the ones I know voted overwhelmingly for Brat. so you either like Dems getting involved in GOP affairs or not.
I’m not in favor of either party being involved with the other party’s business. That includes open primaries. I’m also not in favor of dirty tricks, back room deals, or any other Virginia Way good ole boys BS, whether it’s against someone like Cantor or local party unity.
But I’ve been speaking out about this for years. And the way things are with open primaries and where some want things to go, there is absolutely no reason to even have a party, The incumbents and their protection team already figured this out.
why is it bad to vote in Dem primaries? golly, what is your problem with this?
Because it’s unethical to vote in the democrat primary while claiming to be a republican. Real republicans don’t mess in the other party’s primary. Democrats get to choose their candidate, we get to choose our’s without interference from the other party attempting to skew the results.
unethical? as a Repubican? as a Democrat? as an attorney? as a NoVa resident?
where is the code of Republican ethics?
Wow. How long have you been involved in politics in Virginia? Republicans in Virginia consider it unethical to vote in democrat primaries to skew the results.
Did you have to take a test to get your Virginia Republican merit badge? Or is that an honor they bestowed upon you for being a Republican “activist”, whatever that means?
Wow. so now, among all the other exclusionary criteria you use to be Republlican-enough, one has to be a Republican for a length of time. how long should one be a member before one is Republican-enough for you?
You, the queen of repeating unsubstantiated gossip that someone else directed you to post, are pretty much the last authority on ethics.
Barbara Comstock made the same claim about operation chaos when she voted in the dem primary in 2008.
Interestingly yes she did and also interestingly with the same justifications from her and her supporters and with the same timeline prior to Limbaugh’s discussions of engaging in the action (which was all a rather stupid idea in the first place). This line of defense, if that is what it is, defines lame and on top of that is thread worn from frequent usage for rationalization patching.
Where is the information about primary voting coming from. Most of the time it is coming from internal party lists which means someone committed a crime making it available to third parties as the person who obtained the information from the SBE swore an oath not to disclose it. The restrictions on access to voter information under virginia law are idiotic and need to be definitively and permanently overturned by the courts as in Know Campaign v. Rodrigues. http://northernvirginialawyer.blogspot.com/2011/02/virginia-citizens-voting-records-about.html
I committed no crimes in obtaining the information. Voter lists are not secret.
Members of the public are not allowed to access these voter lists. They are not secret, but they are not publicly available. The restrictions on access are absurd. You did not commit a crime. The way the law is written, somebody else probably did.
What’s most disappointing about this entire thing is that Steve Albertson deserves to be considered one of the top bloggers in the state (and he IS, by people who are familiar with his work and reporting). Unfortunately, the primary place people go to read him is this blog.
It’s like if a restaurant served the best steak in town, but you had to wade through waist-high sewage to eat it.
I’ll never understand the sheer, unmitigated gall of someone who receives an opportunity to blog from someone like Steve and treats it like this. It’s shameful.
This is the second instance in the past week of what could easily be interpreted as an implied threat you have used in regard to Mr. Albertson and his blog. You have every right to express your opinions but frankly your behavior totally belies any form of statement credibility given the vitriol you spew forth. If Mr. Albertson feels he has an issue with any content on the blog I’m sure he is more then capable of handling that situtation professionally. If the opinions expressed here are so anathema to your delicate sensibilities your best option might be to remove yourself and your gang of anonymous up voters to a more accommodating environment.
And finally as an aside note to Brian, on the off chance he might be following this string of rants on TBE from purported followers, from what I believe you know is a neutral observer on your candidacy, your friends are doing you far more damage in this effort then anything Ms. Martin can bring to the table. Shades of candidacy past.
“Implied threat”? Don’t be ridiculous.
There’s no such thing as an undecided voter who reads the comments section of The Bull Elephant.
I don’t think anyone’s opinion of Brian will change based on his friends’ defense of him against an obsessed woman who is using a blog to stage a smear campaign (for the record, I don’t know the guy). Especially in Sully, where the Republicans are either over-informed (and therefore smart enough to recognize he is the frontrunner) or underinformed (and therefore don’t care to read about him on the Internet).
Then your wasting a lot of time and key bytes aren’t you for a guy you don’t even know, curious admission.
If Jeanine was running a smear campaign against John Guevara (speaking of, is that guy still running? I can’t find his website anywhere), I would come to his defence. But she clear is not.
There you go again, it’s defense, not defence.
He doesn’t know the man and lives nowhere near Sully. How bizarre is that?
I’ve yet to meet a Brian fan who actually lives in Sully district.
You don’t even know the guy? Wow. And you live nowhere near Sully.
How bizarre that your defense is so rabid. Weird.
Please, carry on. BTW, I DO know him.
Ah, Steve is not ‘giving me an opportunity’ to do anything. I am a partner here. It’s my blog.
If posts like this weren’t of interest, I wouldn’t be writing them. Judging from the number of hits, there is plenty of interest.
lol, smack
Shocker, writing a trolling post attracts attention. You should consider a listicle next!
As one of “Brian’s 9 friends”, there is zero content to focus on. More to the point, you KNEW there was no content to focus on when you wrote this ridiculous tripe. That’s why you posted it. That’s called trolling.
Brian voted in a Democratic primary? Neat. So did a lot of Republicans.
Brian is a pro-union Republican? Neat. So are a lot of Republicans.
There’s nothing to respond to–it’s such a blatantly hollow charge.
Just like there is not even an iota of evidence that supports the claim that FCRC is under the thumb of Pat Herrity. You can’t even begin to defend it, so you don’t.
If you want me to stop criticizing your posts, stop posting things that are deceitful and stop obsessing about people you have a personal vendetta against.
As long as you continue to do so, I will continue to call you out for it. As a former blogger, as a Republican, as a conservative, and as a human being, I cannot stand your blitheness towards basic decency. And I will continue to call you out for it.
Stephen, Stephen, Stephen….if it were July, I’d invoke Harry Truman and say: “never kick a fresh turd on a hot day”. Instead I’ll say: “never wrestle a pig in its pin, you end up coated in rotten pig shit and the pig will actually enjoy it.” @Steve Albertson: remember that email exchange we had a few weeks ago? I won’t disclose the email contents because obviously the exchange was meant to be held in confidence and that’s how this bear rolls. However, this proves why I think you and the other losers on this blog are exactly the word you used. And you’re the picture of RPV today: out of steam, out of ideas, exclusionary policies and litmus tests. To paraphrase Kris Nohe’s post on my FB page a while back: when a party spends more energy worrying about who can’t belong than who can it won’t win many elections. Amen.
Wow, you misspelled Steven’s name not once, not twice, but three times.
Didn’t you tell me that you had left the republican party and were now voting for democrats?
how do you spell “lightning”?
I wouldn’t know. Spelling isn’t my thing. sorry.
Honey I know it’s sooo hard for you…but if you focus real hard you can sorta keep up. you see this was a dual directed comment…now here’s the hard part….stay with me….I’m talking to two different people in the same comment….I’ll pause for a moment so you can diagram that on a piece of paper with a crayon…..ok….hopefully you got it…….the first part was a reply to Stephen Spiker’s post…hence the first “Stephen” spelled “ph”…..the second part was directed to Steve Albertson…spelled “ev”. I left the Republican Party but I don’t necessarily vote Democrat. I vote for the lesser turd. It sucks but a bear’s gotta do what a bear’s gotta do. Terry was the lesser turd and Cooch was the greater turd. Oh and look at that…I got your name right three times in a row: turd. You are truly the most genuinely stupidest human being I know.
Much too long for a comment on a blog. No one will read all that. Just a little fyi for you to ponder.
Plenty people read it. You did, too.
You can’t respond to any of it, so you ignore it.
After all, that’s what liars and cowards do.
I read it. Spiker too. Fairly certain the author did. Did you close your eyes and scroll down?
I’m in a generous mood today. I therefore must inform you that the volume of traffic to your blog and the content of your posts are not really correlated. There’s a reason Spiker’s posts are getting voted up while your posts are getting down.
Isn’t there anything else to do in Lovettsville?
Oh dear. Completely wrong. But, again, carry on.
You will be happy to learn that this post is the most popular post of today.
To quote the old country song, Don’t you ever get sick of being wrong?
I think we all know the answer to that.
You have to visit the post to get to the comments. And I can assure you people aren’t dropping in to consume your keen political insights. They’re hear to watch you squirm as you undergo an onslaught of criticism from your intellectual superiors.
Wow! No wonder you are friends with Brian. You’re just like him! Please, carry on.
For someone so intellectually superior you don’t have a very good grasp of the English language. You meant here, not hear.
Isn’t there anything else to do in Alexandria other than follow me around so you can mount a rapid defense of someone you have never even met?
As asserted under separate cover, there’s no correlation between my IP address and location. But keep up the web sleuthing, you are sure to find something!
Ahh…jeez. No.
Jeanine, keep up the good work.
Although we do not always agree, you do an excellent job running this blog.
Thanks for the article.
Poor Jeanine, entering her twilight years running a smear campaign. Did God not bless you with some grandchildren to which you can direct your energy? It would be a more positive endeavor than obsessing over Brian Schoeneman.
Haha, Bless your heart for worrying about me.
It would be a ‘more positive endeavor’ for Brian’s nine friends to focus on the content of my posts rather than shooting the messenger. I realize that’s too much to ask but your tactics won’t work. Eventually you will realize that insulting me only incentivizes me to dig deeper. Since these posts are wildly popular I thank you for that extra bit of encouragement. Please carry on!
It’s a darn shame that so few (none?) of Brian’s little friends live in Sully and can actually vote for him.
You most definitely need to keep digging, because near as I can tell, you sure haven’t struck oil. Not even the stuff you are posting on that fake Twitter account, which is pure folly! Pretty soon you will be outside Brian’s house taking photographs and wading through his garbage. And so your obsession will continue. But maybe you are just infatuated with him? Envious of his success? Enamoured with his prominence in the Fairfax Republican cadre?
I have never posted anything on any twitter account other than my own. Where do you guys come up with this bizarre stuff? Why would I be outside Brian’s new rented home in Sully? I
love that line ‘prominence in the Fairfax Republican cadre’?! Funny stuff!
Your obsession with Brian continues!
If property records are accurate (they generally are), the Schoenemans now own their home. As I understand it they may have arranged rent back (a very common practice) so that they didn’t have to move into temporary housing. I don’t really care much about their real estate holdings, nor should you.
But this is the exact sort of thing that happens when the Internet, public records, research databases, and washed up political amateurs don’t produce anything concerning about a strong candidate. You start misrepresenting facts. And when people stop paying attention to your facts (because they are wrong), you will start manufacturing facts. And that’s where your obsession really takes hold…
Please share with us which facts are incorrect. According to public records, the Schoenemans do not own their home. They are renting.
Jeanine, is it also unethical in your view to rent rather than own?
i don’t know you nor do I know Brian, but you seem to have a problem with him.
Of course not, but moving into an area and renting a house just so you can run for office is a bit suspect. It doesn’t show a commitment to the district. When Brian loses this race, where will he turn up next?
The house that he now owns in Sully District?
Even if one were to take your misinformed supposition into consideration, why would Brian rent a 5000 square foot house for a family of three simply to run for election?
You must have had a senior moment when you came up with this idea.
I have no idea why Brian rented a fairly big house and according to you has recently purchased it.
Do you think you might be able to post one comment without an insult? Just what do you think the insults accomplish? Other than make Brian’s supporters look like mean, nasty, folks?
It’s funny how no other Republican bloggers are the target of such direct insults and criticisms, while at the same time no other Republican bloggers continuously use their platform to post misinformation aimed at people they have an irrational hatred for.
It’s almost as if the two are related!
As I said before, stop posting lies and baseless accusations, and I will stop calling you out on it. I assume others will, too. Your embarrassing behavior calls for a lot worse than you’ve been getting.
You and your little friend have become quite tedious and repetitive.
Gotta love the insults! Are all of Brian’s friends like you two? You aren’t doing him any favors. If your goal is to intimidate me, obviously that won’t work. ever.
As I said before, stop posting lies and baseless accusations, and I will
stop calling you out on it. I assume others will, too. Your
embarrassing behavior calls for a lot worse than you’ve been getting.
Intimidation isn’t necessary! You are already doing a fantastic job relegating this blog to a trove of bullshit, along the lines of Drudge! And Spiker’s right in that Albertson has tragically become collateral damage.
These aren’t insults, they are observations. They just happen to be critical observations, because you unfortunately can’t seem to provide an objective assessment of the truth.
You see Jeanine, it’s one thing to present the facts and render an opinion, another thing to manipulate the facts to align with ones opinion.
Now you’ve taken to upgrading your own posts? Are you even old enough to vote? I am aware that you live nowhere near Sully district but if you moved 20+ miles, would you qualify to vote?
You don’t know where I live. And no, my IP address does not correlate with my geographic location. Read up on VPNs, they are useful for obfuscating ones locale.
Haha, I would say ‘nice try’ except it isn’t. You crack me up.
Thank you! That clue was invaluable in figuring out who you are.
Your nose is growing, lol
Yes, I have a problem with Brian representing republicans because he isn’t one. Other than that, he seems like a good father and a good union man.
Tell us Jeanine, what makes a true Republican? Indulge us with your insight.
Six posts in such a short time. Aren’t you getting a tad obsessive?
I’ll ask again. What makes a true Republican?
https://www.redfin.com/VA/Centreville/15371-Wetherburn-Ct-20120/home/9663760
That’s right Jeanine, it sold. To the Schoenemans.
You are correct, it sold 5 days ago. But it’s not a good idea to put his address in such a public place. Again, are you of age to vote? He certainly got a bargain. I didn’t think there was anyplace in Fairfax to buy a house that big for well under $700,000. I wonder why it set on the market for 166 days? He got a steal!
So keeping in line with your Republican ethics, ought you recant all of your nonsense about renting houses and correct the public record?
Rush Limbaugh wasn’t the first or last person to think of voting in the opposite party’s primary.
Did I say that he was? Thanks for the lightening fast response! You beat Spiker to the punch!