Donald Trump simply couldn’t keep his mouth shut.
What began as typical Democrat Party puppet theater has boiled over into one of the most ridiculous and upsetting narratives spilling over from two weeks of political conventions in Cleveland and Philadelphia.
Khizr and Ghazala Khan, Gold Star Parents whose son died in Iraq, appeared at the Democrat Convention in Philadelphia. Khizr Khan was upset by Donald Trump’s plan to ban Muslim immigration from nations suffering from systemic outbreaks of Islamist terrorism and violence. Mr. Khan waved around a Constitution asking if Donald Trump had ever read it. He said that Donald Trump was a man who hadn’t sacrificed anything.
Article I, Section 8, of the United States Constitution empowers Congress to regulate immigration. Congress, not the President, has the sole power to decide who may immigrate and who may not immigrate to America. I’m assuming this is what Mr. Khan was referring to when he was waving his little pocket sized Constitution around in Philadelphia.
Donald Trump’s response to all of this was that he would “like to hear his wife say something” – I suppose insinuating that Ghazala was not allowed to speak.
This set off a media frenzy. Khizr Khan has been making stops on all the cable programs to denounce Donald Trump as having a “Black Soul” and being unqualified to be President.
Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, released a statement saying,
America’s greatness is built on the principles of liberty and preserved by the men and women who wear the uniform to defend it. As I have said on numerous occasions, a religious test for entering our country is not reflective of these fundamental values. I reject it. Muslim Americans have served valiantly in our military, and made the ultimate sacrifice. Captain Khan was one such brave example. His sacrifice—and that of Khizr and Ghazala Khan—should always be honored. Period.
Governor John Kasich chimed in, “There’s only one way to talk about Gold Star parents: with honor and respect. Capt. Khan is a hero. Together, we should pray for his family”.
Donald Trump, in an attempt to sound reasonable said, “While I feel deeply for the loss of his son, Mr. Khan who has never met me, has no right to stand in front of millions of people and claim I have never read the Constitution, (which is false) and say many other inaccurate things,” NBC.
As if this narrative wasn’t ridiculous enough, enter Theodore and Walid Shoebat with an article detailing everything the media was failing to report about Mr. Khizr Khan.
Saudi interests with using Khan to advance Muslim immigration and advance Muslim Sharia is a lengthy subject. And it has ties to Hillary Clinton’s aid Huma Abedin as well. It will take hours of reading just to cover this topic on how it was The House of Saud’s “Muslim Minority Affairs” and the Abedins (Huma Abedin and family) that played a central role in using Muslim immigration to infiltrate the west with Wahhbi agenda.
Trump supporters are now using this article to defend Donald Trump as being correct in responding to Mr. Khan’s DNC speech as he did. However, absolutely nothing in the article had anything to do with Donald Trump’s response and there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Donald Trump was aware of any of the claims made by Shoebat.
What is astonishing, is that this entire debacle was unnecessary. Donald Trump clearly has a problem taking criticism, a character flaw which will be the cause of a great many challenges in a future Trump Administration, especially considering Trump’s desire to end the 1st Amendment rights of journalists. Speaker Ryan and Governor Kasich were absolutely right. There is no situation where it is appropriate for a politician to take shots at the mother and father of a fallen Captain in the United States Army.
When asked about Khan’s father’s speech, all Mr. Trump needed to say was, “As an opponent of the Iraq War and as an American, I can only express my sympathy to the Khan family and my appreciation for Captain Khan’s and for his family’s sacrifice on behalf of our great nation”. Or something to that extent (leaving out his Iraq position would be preferable, but he is a politician).
Instead, he had to respond like a jerk, making the Trump vs. Khan feud a national story for the better part of a week. This is horribly unfortunate in every possible way. For those cheering Trump’s remarks and using the Shoebat article as your defense – one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. All you are communicating to the nation is that Donald Trump’s supporters will never admit that he’s wrong, will never side against him on anything, no matter how inappropriate Trump may have been.
This is a depressing situation folks. This is awful – it’s just awful all around.
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[…] speech at the Democrat convention in support of Hillary Clinton and criticizing Trump. Then Trump made some stupid remarks about Kahn and his son apparently because Trump is so thin skinned he cannot take any criticism. […]
Donald Trump did to the Khans what he did to Ted Cruz’s wife and father, what he did to Megyn Kelly, what he did to John McCain, what he does to anyone he wants…he crosses the line of decency and decorum. If he doesn’t change his tone, like yesterday, many of those people who voted for him throughout the primary won’t be coming back for him. With Obama’s record and Clinton’s baggage, if any of the other 16 candidates were our nominee, this race would already be over. Sad.
Supporting mistreatment of the Khans isn’t a “welcome to politics.” It is bigotry and racism. It is ignorance of our nation’s standards of honor for our war dead and their families, plain and simple.
If you have rationalized that behavior, you have just sunk too low. You have just allowed your politics to cloud your judgement. You have departed from the basics of decency.
Fortunately, this issue is now the subject of an open letter, which I hope to sign.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/01/bipartisan-coalition-of-veterans-gold-star-family-members-tells-trump-his-comments-were-unacceptable/
No matter what the spin, the Khan’s are private citizens they are not politicians. Trump is attacking private citizens. Viciously. I think he really does have small hands.
Shut the f’up Donnie!
Nope, they became public figures when they stood on the body of their son at the DNC convention and attacked the GOP presidential nominee.
Welcome to politics, gonna be a little different this time around — scares you don’t it?
Scares me? Trump is doing a good job of scarying everyone.
Not us Republicans. We are loving every minute of it.
Kahn. The real truth?
1) Why isn’t the Kahn family blaming the establishment president who lied to get us into a war with Iraq? That would Bush 43′.
2) Why is the Kahn family not blaming Hillary Clinton? While in the US Senate, she voted to go to war with Iraq, did she not?
3) About the timing of the Kahn family’s appearance at the DNC last week. Was their appearance timed to overshadow the Friday morning release of the latest GDP report? A very disappointing GDP report for Obama and the Democrats. See link below.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-economy-grew-at-a-disappointing-1-2-in-2nd-quarter-1469795649
4) Trump had nothing to do with the Iraq war, yet, he is being pinned as the bad guy here. The facts say that the establishment Republicans and Democrats are the one to blame, not Trump. It’s a MSM con job is what it is.
It’s all corrupt BS.
Because the Khan family took some of Donald Trump’s vitriol personally. Shocker.
Isn’t it odd that this grieving parent is more upset at The Donald’s comments on protecting our country from them peace loving muslim terrorist nutjobs than he is at the vote that the Hildebeast gave in support of the war that actually put his son in harm’s way? If you think this is the end of how the Lame Stream Media will handle any small, and I mean small mistake by The Donald, you better put on your big boy britches, because it is only going to get worse between now and November as they continue to prop up Mrs. Cankles.
I think the MSM strategy is quite clear and logical. Since they know that any attention to Hillary will invariably turn bad, they will spend all their time attacking trump and will even make up a narrative that isn’t there. The Khan issue is but another of the manipulated anti-trump stories and he reacted to it, thus exposing himself to withering attacks in the press. Frankly, he could have said anything – it didn’t matter – and the press would have said he was insensitive because he favored vetting Muslims.
By the way, we have, as a nation, banned immigrants for many reasons throughout our history. This idea that we have to open our borders to anyone and everyone is idiotic and dangerous.
It is a shame that the democrats and far too many republicans do not realize how dangerous.
Another side show to keep the sheeple in this country distracted, while the country and the people who built it are being destroyed.
Either vote for a guy who has an occasional big mouth, or a career criminal who is also a Marxist. Voting for the latter, or not voting at all might get her elected. Her election will deliver the death blow to this nation.
I pity your kids and grandkids. I’m glad I don’t have any.
This is hardball politics, and an example of someone who will not accept a false narrative.
Appeasement politics are how we got into this mess in the first place.
It is not awful and is not depressing and we don’t have to wring our hands.
Trump is setting a fine example against political correctness.
Perhaps we should put away the fine GOP China because it’s going to get rocky.
Trump behaved like a petulant child, not like a President. This has nothing to do with PC.
A criticism of the use of this tactic in this case would not be a childish, petulant, reply.
Trump didn’t go after the tactic, he went after the mother. He made it personal.
Not everybody shares your gift for le mot juste. He’s playing the cards dealt and he doesn’t yield when attacked. It is a ruthless strategy, it is a successful strategy.
Someone should ask the Khans if the Constitution is the highest law in the land.
The dems arrange the media and their convention like a chess board, The Donald is playing Go.
Yes Trump always fights hard against false memes and narratives.
He would certainly not have succeeded if he had let the media had it’s way with him.
Would the media have dropped this meme if he had brushed it off? No.
Trump was wrong not to just leave the parents of Captain Khan be in what they delivered at the DNC. But, Trump is not alone in offending Gold Star families. Mrs. Clinton answered an interview question, without the bluntness of Trump, but it’s still the same. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/07/31/have-we-forgotten-that-hillary-pretty-much-called-a-gold-star-mother-a-liar-n2200420
No, you want to go stand on the honorable and innocent dead to make a partisan speech, you deserve the shitstorm.
First, the linked article implies that by pointing out Hillary Clinton’s transgressions, we put Donald Trump’s transgressions in a more meaningful context that makes them more rational and acceptable. That is flat out untrue. We should hold Hillary Clinton accountable for her statements and Donald Trump for his.
Second, the nature of their statements is totally different. Clinton doubled down on her time-tested technique of obfuscating issues, but avoided name calling. Trump has insinuated more than once that Muslims are lesser immigrants and lesser citizens. Further, he rationalized everything he said about Muslims and the Khan family as innocent and misrepresented bu the press, while maintaining he was “viciously attacked” by Mr. Khan at the DNC.
Articles like this give conservatives a deserved credibility problem with on-the-fence voters.
Wrong. i have no idea how you channel insinuations, but Trump’s position on runaway immigration is clear and sane.
Your concern is again noted. Glad you are helping your nominee.
Found this link in another blog. Now, the whole story is coming out. The MSM will not be interested.
http://shoebat.com/2016/07/31/what-the-media-is-not-telling-you-about-the-muslim-who-attacked-donald-trump-he-is-a-muslim-brotherhood-agent-who-wants-to-advance-sharia-law-and-bring-muslims-into-the-united-states/
That’s right. He probably shot his own son just for the opportunity to advance his sinister objective and satisfy the paranoia of Virginia’s nut cases.
Back to reality now. The man lost his son. A commissioned officer in the US Army. Show some respect for once. Act like an American.
What Mr Khan senior actually did was to use his dead son as a political prop.
I point out that there are thousands of grieving families who weren’t invited to the DNC including the families of those who died at benghazi. As far as respect, did you miss all the disrespect at the DNC? How about booing a medal of honor winner – is that your idea of respect. How about booing a retired Marine general – is that your idea of respect? How about booing a female police officer while she was delivering the blessing – is that your idea of respect? How about forgetting about the American flag until someone pointed out the situation – is that your idea of respect?
The Democrat Party has become the Party that utterly disrespects the very Constitution Mr. Khan waved so proudly. I suggest that if you are going to act like an American, you show some respect for all the folks who fought and died for this country not just one whose dad used him for political purposes.
Warmac, from countless other posts I’ve left here, you’ll see a recurring theme: two wrongs don’t make a right. I’ll challenge you to find one parent of war dead, one Medal of Honor recipient, one person who has suffered loss of a loved one who will excuse such filthy rationalizations for mistreating Gold Star Parents. You won’t find one.
You’ve accused the Khans of speaking out after being subjected to one of Donald Trump’s many hateful generalizations. What’s wrong with that? The Khan’s didn’t boo anybody. They didn’t lie. They didn’t bad mouth General Allen. They spoke truth, and did so with greater restraint and dignity than Trump has shown since becoming a candidate.
The simple fact is that the Khans have given infinitely more than the elite Trump family. And when called on it by the Khans, The Donald doubled down by insulting them. No excuse. It was wrong. It was unAmerican.
This is my idea of respect: when a couple has lost a family member in the service of our country during war, supporting and defending the Constitution that makes assholes feel safe to mouth off…
Don’t be an asshole. Don’t mouth off. Don’t defend people who mouth off. Speak respectfully to the families of our war dead and of them. Or perhaps don’t say anything at all.
Oh, so you’re the keeper of conservative, Republican, now American — ain’t we the absolute moralist?
The Khans joined the political theatre — it is they who disrespected their son and the families of the war dead.
If your only tool is a hammer, then every problem is a nail. Your bitterness about Trump has you (along with the blessed Khans) making him into the Great Satan. This is called demonization and is a political tactic that really won’t take you far once folks figure out your tactics. Trump is your nominee, embrace him, support him, and revel in the fact that he will be your Commander in Chief.
Don’t be absurd, seriously, the fallacy.
The son has respect, the parents not at all. Many more have died before and in the 12 years since and they’re not whoring themselves out to the DNC and the media.
Respect for once? Act like an American? Sorry Pal, you’re not the arbiter of respect nor American.
Respect is earned, not ordered and Americans act the way they want, not dictated by phony moral high ground Conservative wannabes.
Ironic. Americans can act in the meanest, most.bigoted of ways because the Khan household has an empty chair. You get to say crapoy things because of that family’s empty chair.
I would never claim to be an arbiter. The standards are out there and you’re on the wrong side of them.
Had they said the same things at RNC accusing Hillary Clinton of something, you would have cheered their virtue and saluted their suffering. If Hillary responded, you would have mocked her.
So why not support them now? Because they appeared at the other convention, and you’ve rationalized indecency and conveniently hiding behind a screen name while doing so.
Let me try to explain, the Khans are a partisan tool that happens to be useful because they had an honorable casualty of war in the family.
You are a tool that is furthering the dem narrative.
I am the tool that is exposing your rhetoric and hyperbole.
Everyone should have a screen name because some of you posters are cra cra creepy about identities.
When candidates become indecent, when candidates violate our norms, it goes beyond politics. If the Democrats make hay with this, it isn’t mynfault, it’s Donald Trumps. Meanwhile, anybody who excuses this chases away potential votes, furthering the Democrats’ cause.
The MSM will quickly shuffle Mr. Khan to the side so that he cannot be challenged. The shoebat article is impressive in that it has so much information about his advocacy of sharia and CAIR, among other Islam in America interests.
Mr. and Mrs. Khan lost their son to other muslims who were trying to kill American soldiers with suicide bombs. It is ironic that Mr. Khan, who advocates so strongly for sharia, was waving a copy of the Constitution which, by the way, gives Congress the power to regulate immigration – although you would think that power resided solely with the current president.
All of the Democrats, Republicans and media who are howling about Khan were strangely silent when the RNC had a number of speakers who lost their children to illegal immigrant criminals. We had best get used to this hypocrisy as the media is full on in the tank for Hillary as is, unfortunately, a bunch of RINOs in the GOP elite category.
I would be impressed if the MSM had treated the losses of others with the same intensity as the Khan loss. Hasn’t anybody noticed the hypocrisy here? The RNC featured individuals who lost children to illegal immigrants – yet the press was virtually silent. CNN actually cut away from the speakers to do a talking head discussion.
It is clear that the Kahn job was really a con job by the DNC. Not unlike what they did to Bernie.
Good point. The press has selective compassion.
There are other aspects of this that are troubling. Mr. Khan is apparently an activist with close ties to CAIR. His son was killed in 2004 by a car bomb from other Muslims. The audience at the DNC booed a retired US marine general as well as a Medal of Honor winner. Mr. Khan’s wife was to the right and slightly behind him – why was she there and in what would appear to be a subservient position. Thus part of Trump’s question about her.
I suspect there will be more revelation but the media will simply pass over them.
I do not want to discount any of your points, because the liberal puppet theater is an issue, but it’s a seperate issue. Trump took a shot at the mother of a gold star family, which is unbecoming a future Commander in Chief. No matter how awful these people are, that was the wrong thing to do. It concerns me – it concerns a lot of voters making up their mind. I suppose I ought to have been more clear as to what I was actually focusing on.
Actually, having heard the Trump comment numerous times on TV, he said positive things about the father and asked, what I thought, was a good question. He was curious – why was she there if she wasn’t going to speak? She was dressed head to toe in a blue drape (not sure what to call it). I looked up blue in Islamic dress and while blue has various meanings it is often used to ward off the “evil eye”. So you tell me what she was doing there dressed in blue? I don’t know but I find it curious that he was dressed in western garb and she wasn’t.
Did CNN cut away from surviving family like Fox news cut away from the Khans to go to commercial? What’s your point — that you are subject to the confirmation bias that you call out in others? Why object to CNN but not Fox?
My family has experienced loss from a variety of causes. Over time, so have all other families. However, people who die in defense of the Constitution are in a separate group because they weren’t victims of a random car crash, poor health care, or accidental encounters with violent criminals. They are different because they died to guarantee your Constitutional rights. Anybody who doesn’t see that as different is allowing their commitment to Trump to cloud their vision, or they are too ignorant to understand the difference, and do not appreciate their citizenship.
Sacrifices in defense of the Constitution are special and treated as such, using those sacrifices for political purposes are a whole different animal.
‘Anti-Trump good. Pro-Trump bad.’ Your logic as a Conservative Republican is truly dizzying.
Some of my favorite moments of the RNC were when Marcus Luttrell spoke, and when the mother of one of the heroes of Benghazi spoke. Not that there’s any particular relevance. At all. To your comment.
Mine too. I also liked the two Benghazi guys spoke. There will be much wrapping in the flag this cycle, the voters know who to believe.
I bet if we contact Marcus Luttrell, he won’t have a mean thing to say about the Khans, or they about him.
Dizzying is rationalizing any individual’s indecent treatment of another. Trump treated the Khans with indecency, first with broad ethnic smears and later with specificity. That was indecent. Defending indecency is indecent.
Your first sentence says it all. Pretty much anybody with a brain knows the democrat socialists are anti-military – and they demonstrated such at their convention. To elect Hillary is to elect the worst of Americans.
You just described Warmed perfectly.
The MSM gave Mr Khan over 50 times as much coverage as they did Mrs Smith. I would say that is selective outrage.
And who are you or I to decide who is worth more to grieve over – a woman beheaded by a Muslim and a hero soldier blown up by a Muslim are equally dead.
What disgusts me is the political manipulation of grief by both sides and it is more than obvious that the DNC and the media colluded here to promote the Khan story and to demote the Smith story. I do not respect the collusion and neither should you.
Then rage at political manipulators, but not the Khans.
Exactly
If you bothered to read my posts at all, I don’t rage at the Khans but I do at the manipulations which are obvious. When I point out the hypocrisy, I am targeting the MSM not the Khans. When I point out the bio of Mr Khan, I am asking whether there is collusion between him and the DNC/media. None of this diminishes the loss of their son to a Muslim suicide bomber.
Trump stepped over the line. Nothing makes that right.
He praises the dad and asks a question about the mom’s appearance on stage, and he stepped over the line? The MSM has sold an illusion.
No, in his usual bully way, he insinuated Khan’s (different looking and acting) wife was an outsider, and therefore worthy of rejection by the (white American) group. They’re sifferent. Not like us. He all to frequently starts an insinuation with “I’m not saying (fill filthy insinuation here) but…”
This whole “I didn’t see nothing” attitude is why people associate racism with the GOP.
I was curious about her positioning and dress myself. I wondered why she was there and why the blue drape. Apparently, you weren’t curious. Maybe you think that curiosity makes those who are curious racist.
I certainly wasn’t thinking anything nefarious at the time, but I have subsequently questioned my assumption after researching the meaning of the color blue in Islam. If I recall correctly, the Khans were from Pakistan. In Pakistan, the color blue is often used to ward off the evil eye. Thus her drape was not only Islamic but symbolic.
If you want to start a discussion thread about colored veils, While you’re at it, muse about Melanias’s style choices, and Hillary’s. I’m sure it will be a hotbed of activity.
Does anybody on this thread — anybody at all — really think Trump was having a fashion discussion? Really?
This was not about fashion. There were very deliberate props being used.
The Khans don’t have to change their clothes to speak in public.
Now you are making an assumption about what Mrs Khan actually wears in public to go about her daily affairs. I don’t know and neither do you.
So take that appreciation of the unknown and insert all of the trivial rationalizations of Trump’s boorish behavior towards the Khans. He crossed a line.
If Trump said nothing, he was insensitive. If he said something positive, the press responds “and yet you want to ban Muslims”, if he says something that can be construed as negative no matter whether it is negative, then he crossed the line. This was a no win orchestrated by the DNC and the compliant media took the ball and ran with it.
Yes. The global conspiracy against truth and justice us at work yet again. Trump only LOOKS and SOUNDS like a boorish, bigoted, racist. Thanks for clearing that up.
It. Doesn’t. Matter. What. The. DNC. Orchestrated. If Trump would simply have shut up, Khan’s comments would have been regarded as a righteous retort to Trump’s nativist/tacist narrative. End of issue, move along.
But no, he doubles down with insinuations and his devoted reach deeper and deeper onto inane rationalizations. The only one they haven’t tried so far is immaculate conception!
And the cost of choosing and protecting racist bullies begins to rise. http://aol.it/2ax4Q1O
If Trump said nothing, then he would be insensitive. The MSM has been in the leftist tank for so long that they really don’t have the clout associated with honesty.
By the way, I am devoted to no politician. My preferred candidate was Cruz but he didn’t make it and then went rogue. However, I am with Trump because supporting Hillary is supporting a traitor. Yell all the PC words you want as that actually makes Trump look better.
Yes I can see my reaction and those of other Americans fueling Trump’s skyrocketing approval ratings on the latest polls
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
Oh wait. He and his unclosable mouth are in freefall.
It will be interesting to see what happens if the potential voters get wind of Khan selling influence for rich Muslims to get visas – and how Hillary was potentially involved seeing how the State Department controls the visa process. Khan thinks his website information can be erased. It can’t.
I saw that nefarious detail too. First, he immigrates. Next, as a lawyer, he HELPS PEOPLE IMMIGRATE! Burn him!
The only way he could make it worse is if he opened a fraudulent immigration university and bilked students out of tuition…
If everything is on the up and up, why delete the
website? What is he afraid of? Most curious.
That certainly negates raising his son to do what you didn’t do (die in support and defense of the Constitution of the United States) doesn’t it. He deleted a website. I can see the VFW retracting their support of him. I can see the Army CACO coming back for the posthumous Purple Heart. They’ll probably even disinter his son’s remains for that one.
Be curious. Nothing changes the fact that he is a Gold Star father and you are not.
Are you Stephen Spiker?
Is that a rhetorical question, can you not read, or are you not curious enough to have Googled me?
Ok. Stephen Spiker is your nickname. Thanks for straightening that out.
Don’t know where that reply went…is this the part where you say you’re Stephen Spiker and I am a presumptuous individual for claiming you’re not a Gold Star father when I know nothing about you?
Point taken. I don’t KNOW you aren’t a Gold Star parent, but I will tell you why I arrived at that conclusion. I once worked closely with a Gold Star family, from asking them for confirmation that their son had the social security number printed on the paoer I held, through that disgusting “regret to inform you” message through the family viewing unviewable remains and through burial. During that time, I became acquainted with other Gold Star parents, as I encountered them at my local national cemetery.
Stephen (thanks for semi-dropping that ridiculous screen name), I watched my mother lose a son, and have seen dear friends cope with losses of loved ones to disease, drunk drivers, and violence. This is my viewpoint (and as my big brother used to say, “Opinions are like a-holes — everybody’s got ’em and they all stink!”) there is something uniquely horrible about having a government official bring you into a world where your baby has been ground into bits and returned in parts, in an unpopular war without conclusive end.
It’s been my observation that those who have been the closest to violence are the least flippant about it. That’s why you are not going to read about a Gold Star family or a Medal of Honor recipient writing scathing rebukes to the Khans. I could not fathom one of them being so crude as to render the Khans into an abstraction to be used as sport.
This isn’t about me and whether I’ve done anything to support & defend the Constitution, or whether you have. It’s about a family that is entitled to be offended by what Trump has said, and has the right to respond when they want, where they want, and dressed however they want. A family that has suffered because they raised a boy to become an American military officer. And to whom we owe enough respect that we refrain from the kind of mockery that is rampant in conservative circles.
Show that you have a shred of decency, Stephen. When your great grandchildren browse your online records some day, let them see you weren’t oblivious to the Khan’s suffering or their harsh treatment by a famously crass presidential candidate. That you weren’t the one to heap suspicion on outsiders because they dressed differently. They deserve at least that.
This whole discussion is inane and a reminder of why the country is in such bad shape. The death of a serviceman – no matter who they are, can in no way impact national security decisions. If we firmly believe that immigration and the importation of refugees from from war torn countries imperils national security then the tragic death of the soldier is irrelevant to a decision to limit/regulate said immigration. Period. Have any of you been watching the news? What’s happening in Europe right now? Their present will become our future. The fact that a young American soldier that happened to be Muslim died a hero’s death for his fellow soldiers is absolutely meaningless in this discussion. So that soldier might have never been let into the country if we restricted Muslim immigration – so what? All of this is silly and a testament to how easily we can be distracted and manipulated by democrats and the MSM.
Trump’s response had nothing to do with national security. What on earth are you talking about?
Steven: My commentary address the relevance of the democrat’s/Mr. Khan’s aguement against Mr. Trump’s stated plan to more carefully vet Muslim immigration. Always attack the premise of an opponent’s position before arguing the particulars.
Ah – Mr. Khan’s argument was ridiculous, in my view.
Anyway, I am upset that Trump confused our great Commonwealth with….New Jersey. I mean, after all the lead up and talk about Tim Kaine in the press, how could he get him confused with a guy from over 20 years ago who apparently was governor of NJ? Now he’s probably lost Virginia for good – we do not like to be confused with New Jersey!
When did this happen? I hadn’t heard about it. One mistake after another.
Apparently Trump’s not the only one to confuse the two, http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/presidential/20160729_ap_9877a4c9679b4175af42c9c4905fb6cc.html
By opening his mouth, Trump has now given ammo to the Hillary Campaign. The only thing was some of my friends didn’t really focus on Mrs. Khan until Trump made his remark. I mean, here they (the Dems) are nominating a Woman for Presidential candidate with all the Feminist stuff, etc. and then you have Mrs. Khan just standing there, in her shapeless garb, not saying anything. Probably the Clinton campaign wrote the speech for Mr. K. anyway, but still. I doubt anyone had to tell her to remain silent, but more likely she is just used to taking a back seat to her husband and not voicing her opinion due to Muslim culture.
She said she couldn’t talk about her son without crying so she keep silent.
Which makes Trump appear heartless. Not that he’s not mind you. 🙂
Trump has boundless empathy. Look at the tweet he posted in outrage over the way that man was “viciously” attacked at the DNC. Oh that was him protesting on behalf of himself.
Glad we have more heartless than headless.
Good answer but her trying to talk and crying would have been worth way more. Having a wife as an equal and speaking on the podium would have hurt the demographic.
Tweet on Trump’s feed, showing his wife standing silently next to him says, “She’s just standing there. She has nothing to say? Maybe she wasn’t allowed.”
Probably wasn’t, didn’t fit the narrative.
Hillary campaign has more than enough ammo, Donald is just suckering them into misfiring.
A terrible thing for him to do for no reason at all. Will he continue making these stupid mistakes right up until the election? If so, he’ll lose. If Trump is this thin skinned he shouldn’t be politics. Period.
It is problematic. Hillary has learned the art of whining, which isn’t attractive, but she doesn’t attack average Americans whose son died in the service of this country.
Average Americans aren’t on the podium at the DNC Convention. Trump is demonstrating that he is not going to roll over like the GOP usually does.
I think it sound strategy in this campaign.
I think you’ll come to see that these aren’t political mistakes.
Do you believe that Donald Trump is capable of making mistakes – do you believe he has ever made one? He’s never asked God for forgiveness, so I imagine other folks might believe he’s infallible.
Of course. Many people say that they have or have not asked God for forgiveness, is it important to keep score?
Your support of DJT seems to have lots of qualifiers, is your support greater than your disdain?
I can’t stand him. I’m only voting for him because he’s the nominee and he’s our only chance to defeat Hillary Clinton.
It shows.
That’s even worse!
No, it’s knowing your enemy — there’s a reason he smoked every one of his opponents.
An open letter to Khazir Khan. https://globalriskinfo.com/…/an-open-letter-to-khizr-khan/
I really enjoyed that piece. Folks should click on that link and give it a read. So indicative of the temperament of our fine military men and women.
Thanks or the link Turbo, it’s really good.
As soon as I read the first paragraph, I could hear the “But…” Much like those fictional conversations in which one person says “with all due respect” to another and then proceeds to spew disrespect.
Mr. Mark is technically correct: sacrifice is by definition a voluntary offering. As Mr. Mark points out with his rhetorical question, Mr. Khan did not volunteer to let his son die.
But Mr. Mark hasn’t thought this through. The word “sacrifice” wasn’t conjured by the Khans for their use — it was coined by our society as a euphamism we use to ease our appropriate feelings of culpability over our a fractional hand in CPT Khan’s death.
Amputation would be a be a better word than sacrifice. When the soldier appeared at the Khan’s doorstep, they heard him say, “sir, ma’am, are you the parents of CPT Humayam Khan, 123-45-6789?”
And they probably held back tidal waves of panic. “Yes,” the soldier probably heard. And then he began a memorized litany of regret on behalf of senior officials, and of sacrifice by CPT Khan. Within days they would be presented with a posthumous Purple Heart, supposedly signed personally by the Chief of Staff of the Army, but really signed by a machine. And for each, an enameled pin depicting a flag with a single gold star at the center. All to show respect and jump start Mr. and Mrs. Khan’s hearts as they moved in utter shock.
From that moment forward, the Army, the Khan’s friends and neighbors — everybody will interchange the words loss and sacrifice to get them around the ugly fact that the Khans just had a son amputated, and the Khan’s are publicly, noticeably incomplete.
When the Khans heard Donald Trump’s inexcusable, hate-filled rhetoric, they were undoubtedly provoked. From that point on, they had moral license to respond to Donald Trump in the venue of their choosing. If Mr. Mark wants to argue that General Allen had no business speaking in a political rally, I would be able to understand the logic and tradition behind his opinion. But it is absurd to assert that private citizens surrender their moral license by speaking at a political rally.
The only thing Donald Trump, or Mr. Mark should be saying in response to Mr. Khan is “That was a very moving speech, sir. I’m deeply sorry for your loss.”
I am very sorry for his loss, but his speech was nonsensical, grating, and inflammatory. It wasn’t helpful, thoughtful, or nuanced. But it doesn’t matter. His son died in service to his country. His family is entitled to whatever feelings they have. A presidential candidate should accept that and have understanding or the family.
I have to wonder if the same standards being applied to Mr. Khan’s rhetoric are being applied to Mr. Trump’s rhetoric.
Let me leave this right here:
http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/former-clinton-mistress-speaks-reveals-hillary-lesbian-cocaine-addict-video/
By myself? Absolutely.