Liberal Logic 101 – Prevent Sexual Abuse – Ban Sleeping Beauty

It’s fun when people can’t see their own biases …

That’s fun for you? And what’s the relationship to “besieged Western European citizens”? To be clear: Election winners write history. If VA Republicans want to write history they need the center to win.

Warmac, you love making assumptions. Putting Islam above American citizenship? What does that even mean? They are in different zones. Islam is my religion. American is my country. I live in a country where the two don’t have to mix and they don’t. I am proud to be an American. Heck look at my name. American comes first.

And duty? How do you know what I have done? I could have served in the military or I could have my kids in Scouts learning about patriotism. I could have been a guy on memorial day placing flowers on veterans graves. I could be completely different than your fantasies about Muslims.

And don’t give me that assimilation nonsense. American Muslims are highly assimilated. They are more educated and more wealthy than the average American. As to me personally, I guarantee I know more than you about American history and have experienced and respected more parts of this nation. I am 100% red blooded American. Just like my Muslim brothers who died in war defending this country and our constitution. But you don’t care about them. You love to hate.

You don’t have to remind me what Jesus said. If you know anything about actual Islam and not the fantasy version put out by terrorists, you would know we are taught to respect Jesus as a profit and to consider the Gospels as holy books. I have read the bible at least 12 times cover to cover and have studied Christianity extensively, including its many variations and nuances, I love Christians as my brothers and as fellow People of the Book. I love Jesus.

I don’t scream at you for pointing out my shortcomings. I scream at you for abandoning what I thought were conservative values of individual responsibility and intellectual honesty. You tell distortions about Islam (like the ridiculous Taqiyya thing I had never even heard of until after 9/11). You refuse to engage with Muslims and Imams. Of course there is no alternative but to call you a bigot. A non bigot would ask me what I think and not assume I am a liar. A non bigot would reach out to the community he is concerned about and ask questions of the people directly and spend time with them. A bigot just goes on reading whatever crazy websites and never engages with the other.

I have made ZERO excuses for the bad things Muslims do. There are tons of them. I even listed some. I acknowledge they are bad and they should change. I work very hard to change the few bad Muslim minds I can find online. I literally know no Muslims in the US who think those ways that concern you. But the fact that you think I should apologize reinforces your bigotry.

What do I have to do with what some crazy Muslim does in Syria or what even some guy going crazy over his failed life and confused sexuality does in Florida. In all these cases I don’t know these people. If I knew them I would do anything to stop them. I have no culpability for what they do. That is conservative values. Individual Responsibility for what you choose. They are the ones you should get an apology from. You didn’t apologize for what the idiots in Abu Ghraib did. You had nothing to do with it. Why should I apologize for things I detest and did not do? Just because their version of my religion and my version share the same name?

This has to stop warmac. Innocent people are being hurt by the spreading of propaganda. You are literally doing that. Go and spend a few Fridays at the Mosque. Talk to an Imam. Ask them what they believe and feel directly. Stop mouthing off about stuff you know little about and learn.

Or don’t. But if the people around you don’t stop this bigoted stuff from being a loud voice then you will see a political engagement from minorities that will devastate you. Just like in VA 2017. Ironically you complain about assimilation. You will see how assimilated all these minorities are when they exercise their rights to vote as citizens

wait, your only criticism is that the guy uses the widely accepted order of word – are you an English teacher? Looking at your writing, I know you are a radical, white nationalist intent on destroying the USA, but I never knew semantics was your field of experties

Ms Schiavo’s cardiac arrest was in 1990. The legal wrangling among family members went on for years. Schiavo died in 2005 after numerous court findings that her wishes would be that the feeding tube should be removed. This is consistent under the jurisprudence of Cruzan v. Director, Missouri Department of Health, 497 U.S. 261 (1990) in United States Supreme Court, Cruzan case involved young adult unable to state personal preferences for health care. In a 5–4 decision, the Court affirmed earlier ruling of the Supreme Court of Missouri and ruled in favor of the State of Missouri, finding it was acceptable to require “clear and convincing evidence” of a patient’s wishes for removal of life support. A significant outcome of the case was the creation of advance health directives. Not long after Cruzan – which was a closely decided case in SCOTUS and an area of social policy unfamiliar and frightening to many Americans – Schiavo case came along. Cruzan FOUND under law that ‘clear and convincing’ was the evidentiary standard for such a difficult act in health care – removing treatment that might hasten death (but not cause death) – and the SCHIAVO case was about WHO had the LEGAL AUTHORITY to exercise decisionmaking that has a ‘clear and convincing’ basis. Two lower courts in Florida found that found that Terri Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state and that she had made reliable oral declarations that she would have wanted the feeding tube removed. Family members argued – unsuccessfully in court – that their belief that she was Roman Catholic was ‘clear and convincing’ evidence that she WOULD NOT the feeding tube to be removed. So, very difficult. But the Florida courts decided to protect YOU decisions; If you has once been a Satanist and believed that your body should be submitted to Satanic rituals to keep you alive, and your Satanist parents demanded that the rituals be allowed, BUT your spouse argued that you had, in fact, and with evidence presented, converted to Judaism and that you would NOT want Satanic rituals, whose decision would you want the court to honor?

Schiavo ‘died’ when and as declared by a physician’s pronouncement of death.

The Liverpool Care Pathway is pretty much the same thing when abused by the medical profession.

Yes, she was legally in a vegetative state. Most people think that means she just lied there and couldn’t do anything at all and had next to no brain waves. That is patently false. She would respond when her parents entered the room with the very little movement she had.

We, as a society, cold blooded murdered her through tortuous dehydration. I even believe the judge forced her parents not to give her anything.

It was a low-point of American society.