Tonight the Loudoun County Republican Committee passed a resolution to censure Republican state Senator Jill Vogel because of her vote for Medicaid expansion. Only two members of the committee voted against the resolution.
Censure of Senator Jill Vogel
“Whereas, the Republican National Party Platform calls for the repeal of Obamacare and specifically states “We oppose government-run health care and seek to protect the liberty of American patients”; and
Whereas, the Loudoun County Republican Committee supports the National Republican Party Platform; and
Whereas, the Loudoun County Republican Committee passed a resolution against the Obamacare Medicaid Expansion in Virginia; and
Whereas, State Senator Jill Vogel represents a portion of Loudoun County and voted for the expansion of Medicaid; and
Resolved, the Loudoun County Republican Committee censures Senator Vogel on her vote to expand Obamacare; and
Resolved, the Loudoun County Republican Committee has lost all faith in the abilities of Senator Vogel, we request that Senate Majority Leader Norment remove Senator Vogel from Chairmanship of the Senate Privileges and Elections Committee, as well as her membership in the Finance, Rules and Laws and Technology Committees; and
Resolved, that the Chairman of the Loudoun County Republican Committee shall cause copies of this resolution to be disseminated to all Republican members of the General Assembly, and to the media.”
We need to hold our elected officials responsible for what they do in Richmond and Washington.
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Bravo for another local unit having the moxie to do the right thing.
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Who are these “Republicans” to say?
How are they themselves credible?
In a recent story here TBE’s own matriarch stated that Loudoun BOS was Republican.
W brought the fact of the larger growing issue of illegal immigration in this area.
So how do the “Santurary providing Republicans” in Loudoun County have a single ounce of credibility to call out another Republican?
Loudoun BOS is majority Republican, 6 to 3.
Same majority Republican that brought Metro to Loudoun?
“Whereas, we Republicans would prefer that 400,000 Virginia’s have no healthcare insurance…”
To quote someone who said it better than I could (two someones actually): https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/457654a99b7aafbf8db2d21c35a10c2da3ebff1ec2e87a240361ed37bce068ee.jpg
~ “Before judging as cruel or indifferent those of us who are skeptical of the increased concentration of power in the hands of government, ask yourself who truly benefits from the notion that the only or best way to help the poor, feed the hungry, cure the sick or educate a child is to give more money and power to politicians.” Nick Freitas, Aug 6, 2018
Well, I certainly hope that if a loved one becomes ill with a very expensive disease that the GOP hasn’t successfully gutted ALL the decent insurance and that all you can afford is one of the junk policies the GOP wants to promote. I have what is considered VERY GOOD health insurance and I have been diagnosed with a somewhat rare condition. My Doc asked me how my financial situation was, because “the very best thing we could do for you is not covered and is expensive”. So here we go, back to the days where if you’re not well off then it’s tough luck. Or God forbid you or your child has a pre-existing condition. But by all means, we should let children die so the CEO of United Healthcare can take home a BILLION dollar salary.
It is not for you to decide what is a junk policy. You do not know more about an individual’s wants and needs than that individual does. Also, as much as it may horrify you, nobody in this world owes you a damn thing. Not the food that you eat, nor the clothes on your back, nor the housing you live in… nor your healthcare. You are not owed one penny from the productive labor of even one of your neighbors. You do not have the right to insist that we pay for your rare condition.
Fortunately for you, your fellow countrymen are incredibly generous when asked instead of stolen from. There are numerous charities and churches that use money voluntarily collected to help people in need of any number of things… including healthcare. If you are an atheist and it makes you burn to ask churchgoing folks for help, set up a GoFundMe page.
I think most would consider a junk policy if it covers next to nothing if you file a claim.If you want to pay good money for something that gives you no return, then go for it. When YOUR GOP friends in DC line the pockets of the top 1% but have no problem allowing sick people to die for lack of insurance I think religion doesn’t rmuch figure onto it.
I don’t happen to have an extra half mil lying around so I won’t have that treatment. That’s the way it goes. But when a drug company can get a new patent for a tried and true drug that’s been on the market for YEARS and can then turn around and charge $27,000 for 21 days worth, something is WRONG and it’s called GREED.
NOBODY ASKED YOU TO PAY FOR ANYTHING. I have NEVER asked for a damn thing, as you put it, from anybody, EVER! Not one penny. I am paying dearly every month for my insurance and I would never ask any of it’s shortcomings to come from you or any charity.. You have absolutely no room to have ANY say about my food, clothes or housing.You’re not paying for ANYTHING I ever had or will have. I WORKED FULL TIME for 52 YEARS. In addition to taking care of my own, for years I cared for several children whose parents were lacking.
I pay for everything I have. I give my fair share to my church, to the shelter and several other charities. I figure there but for the grace of God go I. And
I take it to heart when Jesus said ” As you treat the least of them, so you treat me.” I’m not looking for any “GENEROSITY” or CHARITY from the likes of you! I’ll put my “productive labor” up against yours any day of the week!!!
Any insurance policy is required by law to disclose what it covers and what it doesn’t. It is up to you as a consumer to read a potential policy and decide for yourself if it covers what you want or if rationally you should trade off lower cost for less coverage.
The rest of your rant is patently false… drug companies cannot by law re-patent drugs that “have been around for years”. If a drug has “been around for years”, it is available for any company that wants to make it and the price is usually driven down to at or minutely above the actual cost to get it to a store and sell it. The only thing a drug company can patent at that point are improvements to that drug that cost money to innovate. Do you really think you are owed their innovation at no extra cost? How often do you think innovations in drug therapy would happen if you and your ilk get their way?
You very obviously do not believe in paying your fair share when you expect insurance companies to pay for your healthcare even when they would lose money through that payment and even when you should have known what was covered and what wasn’t when you bought your policy. You also very obviously do not believe in paying for the value of what you get when you expect drug companies not to make a profit (slim as those profits are after years of development and testing costs).
As a point of fact you are looking for generosity and charity… you just don’t want to be forced to feel grateful or beholden to the people who fund that generosity and charity. Instead you want the government to hold a gun to those peoples’ heads (whether those people are the owners of drug companies or insurance companies or just ordinary taxpayers) and force them to give you what you consider your right.
Lastly, healthcare is not a right and health insurance certainly isn’t either. Both are commodities that cost money. Neither are the business of the government to supply.
You really are holier-than-thou with everybody, aren’t you? You are nasty to just about anybody on this site that doesn’t lap up every word you say as if it were Gospel. You talk a good game but you are full of it. They change a few molecules, just enough to qualify for a new patent and that change that is very often based on research that is paid for by the taxpayers. Do some research on a drug called Acthar, and it’s not the only one they’ve done this with.
As soon as I found out how much this stuff cost I refused to take it anymore at that ridiculous price. The prescribing Doc had no idea how much it was. The Neurologist told me, and I quote ” you do realize this stuff is just reformulated Prednisone and they’re charging the insurance a fortune for it. They tweak it just enough to qualify for a new patent.” The insurance company had paid nearly $78 K before I got and EOB with the actual cost. The half mil I was referring to was an entirely different issue.
The point is that you seem to be so deluded that you will never get past the Fox/Trump BS that makes you think that EVERYBODY is out to take what’s yours.
I don’t know how you can say I’m looking for charity or what you are talking about but I certainly don’t expect to get anything from the likes of you. You are so far gone there is no point in trying to reason with you. Goodbye
So if you don’t care to intelligently debate with someone who has a different opinion, just bad mouth and move on?
While Amy is not yet sufficiently Trumpy and conservative, her points remain valid and I fear you are letting your emotions and feelings get in the way of your ‘reason.’
I am truly sorry for you having your health problems, but, as per Amy, that doesn’t entitle you to dictate for others.
I am NOT letting emotions get in the way of reason. I am, however, pointing out the lengths to which some drug companies (and some other providers I’m sure) will go to make a huge profit, and how bloated out healthcare costs are. If the medicine is truly “improved” a price hike is warranted, but certainly not from $50 to $27,000 for small changes. I DID DEMAND IT WAS DISCONTINUED AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT HOW MUCH IT WAS. It’s not like it was a LIFE and DEATH decision. My doctor had no idea about the cost and in this case the insurance company just shelled out almost $78,000 for this “slight change” before I knew anything about the cost..
My point is that the situation is NOT unique and that much of our healthcare budget is squandered at the alter of Capitalism. Doctors don’t always know about pricing, they are lobbied by drug reps and in trying to keep up with the myriad of changes, often depend on drug reps for the vital info they need.
Just another case in point, an MRI of your knee costs $5400 at Winchester Medical Center, if you are a cash patient. (That is the only type of pricing I could pry out of them). If you drive to Hagerstown, that same cash price for the same MRI is $450. Why is it so hard to make some decisions based on price? Call the hospital in advance for your next outpatient procedure and try to get a price for it. Throw in the differing prices when insurance is involved and you’ll see what I’m saying. They make it nearly IMPOSSIBLE for a person to make reasonable choices when it comes to healthcare.
My point being we, as a nation, need to spend our H/C dollars SMARTER. I AM NOT DICTATING ANYTHING TO ANYBODY! No sympathy needed or wanted here. But according to another poster I am just another Liberal taker, out to take what’s hers.
ALL CAPS, ‘Altar of capitalism,’ ‘we, as a nation,’ ‘our H/C dollars,’ etc. sounds pretty dictatory.
Everybody is different, everybody makes choices. Healthcare is a choice, not a right.
You should not have to pay for my blowed-out knees because I loves me some ‘Big ‘n Tasty’s atop my food pyramid.
Let me see if I follow. Everybody makes choices, so in the “public good” category public roads, schools, police, fire depts are also ripe for privatization. Would they also be good things to privatize for the GOP? Please note the results in Michigan Public Schools under Betsy DeVos, and most other privatizations that I can think of, like $65.00 fees one way, to use the privatized toll road to get to DC. Free market right?
As a final word, I am not looking to TAKE anything from you/yours. I pay $1800 per month for my healthcare. That’s the way insurance works. If you don’t want or need insurance don’t buy it. Consider though that you may not have control over a horrible car crash, that costs A LOT of money for the care you need to recover. And I guess that’s a choice too if they say OOPs maybe you should have bought better insurance!
I just think you’re just following the wrong people and the wrong agenda.
Your insurance is a bet with the insurance company. They are betting they can make more money from you then they will have to pay out for their insurance obligations to you.
You pay 1800 per month, over time, it accumulates into a big bucket. The Insurance company tries to get some kind of return as well as saving it especially for your health concerns.
$21,600 per year, say for 10 years. They would be sitting on $216,000 that they are obligated to pay for your health during those 10 years. If you don’t have health issues more than $216K, they win; If you do have health issues more than $216K, then the Insurance company covers it.
Of course there are rules and limits and gotchas: If you smoke, drink, and cuss, they will charge you more in order to cover the additional risk.
That’s YOUR deal with THEM.
You are paying them for Health Insurance, not for Health Care.
Now, when you expect someone other than yourself to make up the shortfall, or for the additional risks of too many ‘Big & Tasty’s’ or your genetic shortcomings, with “We as a nation” and ‘our H/C dollars,’ this certainly smacks of dictating someone else (the public) to pay for your ride.
If the new medicine “only changes a few molecules” and the medicine is effectively the same, get your doctor to prescribe the old, now generic medicine. Prednisone is cheaper than dirt… take that instead. But it is not the same is it? Or your doctor would not be insisting you need the newer formulation and would have prescribed Prednisone to begin with.
That is the problem with your reasoning. Either the medicine is the same or it isn’t. If it is the same you lose nothing by taking the drug available in generic (and you lose your reason to complain). If it is NOT the same, then you are being a typical liberal trying to find a reason to get something for nothing.
No matter how much you protest that you do not want to take what is not yours, YOU started this debate bemoaning the “1%” in congress who won’t give people health insurance (as if that can be plucked from the air for free).
First, health insurance != to health care. Second, what we prefer is that the government not steal from us to shower largess on you. Third, providing healthcare is not one of the proper functions of government.
Yeah for Loudoun. I can’t believe she sold us out like that. I helped with her campaign and this is what she goes and does.
She is not the only one… and they all deserve censure.
They all deserve to be repealed and replaced — every Republican voting for that travesty, moreso the oathbreakers who beforehand pledged to oppose it, resigned/retired, whether or not they realize it.
Outstanding.
Fantastic!
Would be interesting to see if Fauquier would do the same, but I’m not holding my breath.
At the last meeting of the Fauquier Co Republican Committee (FCRC), a resolution was introduced and debated. The language in the resolution was that the Committee was “disappointed with” and “disapproved of” her vote, while in the same resolution praising the Fauquier Republican Delegates (Webert and Cole) for their votes in opposition to the budget with Medicaid expansion. Even that language was too harsh for many on the Committee. The resolution was defeated. The majority of the FCRC says they opposed the Medicaid expansion in the budget but when given the opportunity to make that known (as a Committee), they are unwilling to hold their elected Republican representatives accountable (censure). Sort of like our society these days- no one wants to be accountable and no one wants to hold anyone accountable. Pretty pathetic.
Pathetic indeed…
That is too bad. They are as wimpy and gutless as the RPV.
No unit can be as wimpy and gutless as the RPV.
Wanna bet?
Lol, you’re right. Based on my own unit, that was kinda a ‘hold muh beer’ challenge.
Excellent.