They speak incessantly with forked tongues and are not to be trusted.
For example, in rebuking Donald Trump’s recent statement about illegal alien Mexican rapists and drug dealers, Chuck Todd, narrator of NBC’s Sunday show “Meet The Press,” claimed that he and his staff “could not find any studies showing any connection between immigrants and crime.” In fact, to counter Trump’s assertion, Todd referred to a Pew Research Center report stating that immigrants committed less crime than the general American population.
That might be swell and dandy, and I have no cause to doubt that claim, given the very high crime rates of some segments of the native-born American population. However, The Donald did not speak about all immigrants, but rather Mexican immigrants. Thus, to lump together all immigrants when Trump was complaining about a particular demographic is totally disingenuous, dishonest, and well…liberal. But here is why Todd did it.
Government data (FBI crime statistics) clearly indicates that crimes rates vary SIGNIFICANTLY among demographic groups, with the Hispanic crime rate being about twice that of the non-Hispanic white crime rate. Trump therefore appears correct in his assertion. Furthermore, the crime rate among East and South Asians (to include immigrants) is significantly lower than that of the non-Hispanic white crime rate, and is in fact less than 1/3 that of the Hispanic crime rate. Let’s face it, if there are Korean or Indian equivalents of MS-13 or the border cartels, they are one of the best kept secrets in the country. So, by deliberately lumping Asian immigrants in with Hispanic immigrants, Todd and his ilk are able to conceal the high crime rate of Mexican immigrants. Such liberal Jedi Mind Tricks may work on weak willed, mind-numb Democratic voters, and some “conservative” writers and commenters, but they will not work on me and others like me.
Then of course there are the plethora of estimates from the liberal media concerning the cost of “The Wall of Trump” and the prospects of deporting 11 million illegal immigrants. Todd made the claim that Trump’s plan to beef up the border patrol would raise the annual cost from $18 to 28 billion dollars. Other liberals have estimated the cost of Trump’s Wall would be anywhere between five to ten billion dollars. That is fine, and no one is denying that it will be not be expensive to solve this problem after decades of broken promises and total disregard of our immigration laws by both political parties. It is never easy to clean up a mess that has been festering for decades, with now legions of “anchor babies” costing tax payers tens of billions of dollars a year in federal benefits.
But how come none of these liberal bean counters have ever showed an interest in tabulating the cost imposed by illegal immigrants and legal immigrants on welfare? After all, if a liberal “journalist” is willing to roll up his or her sleeves to estimate the cost of DOING something about a problem, he or she should be equally curious and eager to calculate the cost of NOT DOING something. Right?
The truth is that for nearly 30 years this immigration mess has cost us tax payers hundreds of billions of dollars per year in local, state, and federal services and benefits along with higher medical insurance premiums. But the only people who have tried to estimate the magnitude of this drain are the good folks at Center of Immigration Studies and Federation for American Immigration Reform. And the liberal rebuttal to their thorough research and analysis? More often than not it is the usual cries of “racism” and “nativism.” So typical. So dishonest. So duplicitous. So fork-tongued.
And finally, in order to save a lot of unnecessary haggling in the comments section over the crime stats in this article, I refer the usual TBE trolls to this link, and the sources cited in it.
Stats in this area are complete bull starting with the 11 million number. They have been using this for decades. There are “immigrants” in parts of VA where they never existed before the 1990s. Go to Culpeper, Harrisonburg Richmond. The only stats you can believe are those that run counter to what liberal organizations like PEW want to represent. Like their stat that shows how much Hispanics like the welfare state. That is not something they want to advertise in their quest to present their less than solid statistical evidence in the area of immigration.
How is Trump going to deport 11 million illegal’s? Congress nor the courts are going to work with him. So tell us how?
An executive order would be blocked by some court in a matter of hours. So how?
It doesn’t take an executive order to deport illegal aliens, That is what the President is supposed to be doing under the law. It takes an executive order to stop the process which is what Obama did. He has ordered his DHS not to apply the law as it is written. Nice huh? Oh and they were gearing up to give everyone work authorization too! Isn’t that nice. All that stuff about work visas thrown out with the phone and the pen!
Evidence of a high crime rate among 54 million hispanics, the vast majority of whom are here legally, isn’t evidence of a high crime rate among illegal immigrants from Mexico. This is basic statistics. What is true of the whole is not necessarily true of a subset.
However, don’t misunderstand, I think it’s entirely possible illegal immigrants from Mexico could be committing crimes at the same rate or higher than the rest of our hispanic population out of desperation. I also think it’s possible their crime rate is lower to avoid deportation, because that also makes sense. Unless you have more specific data, there’s no way to tell.
You’re hilarious. Someone who is here illegally, is not necessarily part of a group of people responsible for a higher crime rate than people here legally?
Hello, those here illegally, they are criminals dude.
It’s true improper entry (i.e. illegal border crossing) is a misdemeanor criminal offense. However, unlawful presence (i.e. being here illegally) is actually a civil offense and not a criminal one.
Why does that distinction matter? Because 2/3 of illegal immigrants came into this country legally and overstayed their visa — which means only a third of illegal immigrants are actually criminals for the sole reason of being an illegal immigrant.
I realize it’s a lot more fun to paint with broad brush strokes, but it also means being wrong a lot.
And what about the crimes being committed to obtain a fake SS card, and fake ID to obtain a drivers license? And then using a falsely obtained SS card as ID on the I9 form required for employment in the U.S.?
Are these a misdemeanor also?
I realize it’s a lot more fun to paint without a brush, but it also means creating a false impression to prove your delusions.
Obviously, I was specific in what I was talking about. If you want to backtrack with a bunch of different questions, the answer is vast: It depends on a lot of individual factors.
Since you mostly focused on the employment angle, I’ll point out in 2009 the Supreme Court ruled someone using fake documents to obtain employment cannot be charged with identity theft in the vast majority of situations.
So, they took a felony charge off the table. That only leaves lesser misdemeanor and civil offenses.
Also, I’m glad you brought up the widespread use of fake work documents by illegal immigrants, because using those fake documents is why illegal immigrants pay billions in income and FICA taxes — beyond the property and sales taxes they pay regardless of using fake documents.
No, what did SCOTUS rule about using fake documents to get a SS card or drivers license? If it is a misdemeanor, it is not breaking the law?
What’s in this for you? Is it Patrick Murphy, or is it really Patrick Martinez?
Or, have I really figured out who you are?
Like I said, the answers are broad. Just on the question of obtaining a social security number, there are half a dozen possible offenses based on the specific circumstances.
Of course, none of your questions had anything to do with my assertion an illegal immigrant wasn’t necessarily a criminal simply by virtue of being an illegal immigrant. Because you know I’m right and are trying to change the subject.
I never said a misdemeanor wasn’t breaking the law. In fact, I made it clear I’m aware someone who commits a misdemeanor is a criminal, so you’re just making a fool of yourself.
I suggest you read what you wrote. Also, study the definition of crime, criminal, etc.. Provide links that prove what you say is true.
How can someone be here illegally, and not be a criminal? I guess anything is possible these days.
Because there’s a difference between a criminal and civil offense.
Here’s some help understanding why most illegal immigrants haven’t actually committed a crime solely by being here illegally: http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2014/07/is-illegal-immigration-a-crime-improper-entry-v-unlawful-presence.html
Illegal aliens are not stupid like you. They make sure they get the Earned Income Tax Credit which will refund anything that was withheld for FICA or Income Tax.
And stacking themselves into boarding house like you see in Fairfax County means that the property taxes won’t pay the 13,000 per child that it cost to educate Obama’s and your surge.
Why do you like illegal immigration so much?
That’s an exception, definitely not typical. https://news.vice.com/article/undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes-to-fund-programs-theyre-banned-from-using
who is more honest? Todd or I?
Does it matter?
You’re trying to use evidence of one thing to prove another thing you don’t have any evidence to support. You’re probably an honest and trustworthy guy, but when you’re making an argument the burden of proof is on you and your proof doesn’t exist.
Can you simply say Todd was deceptive? Please. Try. I know you can do it.
In the situation you referenced, I don’t think he was any more deceptive than you’re being here. You’re both trying to find evidence to prove or disprove something, but since neither of you have direct evidence you’re both grasping for indirect evidence and asking for a leap of faith.
Really? White liberal males can NEVER admit a conservative is right. It is just not in your DNA, sorry to say.
Right, understanding the difference between provable facts and personal anecdotes and suppositions makes me a liberal. Got it.
Of course, this weekend I’ve also knocked over 200 doors for conservative Republican candidates in competitive races. But, that’s something liberals are famous for doing, aren’t they?
Avoid deportation? They simply return the next day!! You are indeed hilarious.
For some that’s true, but for many illegal immigrants their journey was dangerous and expensive — something they aren’t likely to risk going through again if they can avoid it.
the vast majority of Hispanics in the usa are Mexican. if the Hispanic crime rate is high, it is because the Mexican rate is high.
Three comments in a row, Mark? Seems I struck a nerve.
You might want to take a deep breath and read my comment again, because you’ve definitely misunderstood what I said.
Don’t overestimate yourself. I have keyboard problems. And must type with an on-screen keyboard, hence the short entries. But you just can’t bring yourself to say that the essence of my article is right on the money.
I can agree your blog post was right on the money if the essence was, “when there isn’t any actual proof to the contrary, the liberal media tends to underestimate the negative impact of illegal immigration.”
That’s absolutely true. So is the inverse: “If there isn’t any proof to the contrary, conservative bloggers tend to overestimate the negative impact of illegal immigration. Sometimes, even when there is proof.”
Integrity is a characteristic in very short supply. The Dems, and some media outlets, seem especially lacking in this quality.