The definition of racism

written by John Massoud January 12, 2018

The definition of racism. Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior. The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

This is the definition of racism. A belief that someone who is a different skin color or ethnicity is not as good as someone of your background, heritage, or skin color.

In the left’s own need to demonize Trump and make themselves to be the “morally superior” persons they see themselves as – Democrats, and their cheerleaders at CNN and MSNBC have decided that a statement which Trump supposedly made “Why do we want all these people from 0000hole countries coming here” means that Trump is a racist. Trump denies having made this comment but does admit to having used “rough language”. Best guess is Trump probably said something similar to the statement attributed to him.

In the world of the modern day leftist, each culture is equal to each other. And there is no need for moral outrage unless these self-appointed moralists say that we should be outraged. Meaning that the left thinks that each country is morally equivalent to our own – mostly based on past sins. This argument is the ultimate in lunacy. Let me digress for a paragraph or 2.

Example. I’m an alcoholic – been sober for 24 years. According to the way the modern day leftist thinks, I should be blamed for my sins against everyone to this day because I was committing a horrible sin against myself and my family and friends from 1986 through 1993 (when I finally sobered up). It is one thing for a person who I may have offended to have bad memories of me. No one can blame another for that. And if I offended someone during my drinking years (and offend some I sure did), that’s on me. But according to the thinking of these enlightened people, everyone should be mad at me because of something I may have done to someone else in 1990. Think I’m kidding? According to the Bernie/Pocahantas wing – each White Anglo Saxon American is guilty of crimes against Native Americans because some of our ancestors may have owned slaves or may have razed an Indian village. There is no difference between their argument and the one I just came up with above about my past.

The reason I went on that tangent is as follows: Our ancestors may have sinned, but we are not responsible for any wrong they may have done. People in Haiti and some underdeveloped countries in Africa are still enslaving each other and committing genocide or ethnic cleansing against their neighbors, however that is ok – or at least not really talked about. Somehow, it seems to me that the American culture, which has owned up to its past, tried to right the wrong, and thinks we need to move on and work together is no better than a culture where they kill each other to this day. Example. Take the Rwandan genocide of the mid 1990’s. I don’t see any great world outcry for reparations from one feuding tribe to the other.

My ex-wife was from Sumy Ukraine. Her and her father’s opinion of Sumy was “We are the armpit in the 0000hole of the world” (Aka the worst place to be in Ukraine). And quite frankly, Sumy was an ugly place to be. Nice people, horrible place to live for a number of reasons. That does not mean that Yulia or Nikolai were racist towards Ukraine. Just means that they hated where they came from, hated what Stalin and the Bolsheviks had done to their homeland, and wanted to be proud of their country. In Sumy, the average income is $200 per month per person, and no one can afford to buy anything. Government corruption is so rampant that employers can extort money from prospective employees to get a job, and no one will do anything about it because the police are more corrupt than the criminals.

And if you think that Ukraine is bad, wait till you see Moldova. Their country is so poor that some parents sell their children off to be sex slaves. This is the definition of a “0000hole”. SURPRISE – Ukrainians and ethnic Moldovans are Caucasian.

Personally I wish that Trump had used less “rough” language. Something to the effect of, “we are in charge of who we allow in here – shouldn’t we be letting in people who benefit our country”. However like it or not, Trump is correct in the larger scheme. Our culture is superior to other countries. And calling some other land a 0000hole compared to ours is not a racist statement. Sadly it’s a statement of fact. Ours is still the greatest country ever founded. People sacrifice everything to get over here. Have been doing so since 1609. What other country in history can boast this?

So to our supposed “enlightened friends” at CNN, get over yourselves – once again. We are and remain the greatest nation ever founded. And Donald Trump is part of that fact. Oh and please stop calling everything that offends your sensibilities racist.

John Massoud

John Massoud is currently a Magisterial District Chair in Shenandoah County, the head of the Freedom Caucus of the Shenandoah County GOP, and has dedicated his life to fighting the tyranny of big government at all levels, federal, state, and local.

ameri…canwork

Nice job John.
Now for the funny,a new reality show;
From the $&!+hole to the Swamp.
Maybe a book or movie.
- Warmac9999
  
  You make a good point. The DC swamp is increasingly seen as a $&!+hole. Both the welfare plantation and the DC swamp are in need of a good clean up.
  - ameri…canwork
    
    Yes,
    I could have easily stated;
    From Cuba to Congress the story of Marco Rubio.
  - Andrew Olson
    
    Spoken like a Russian committed to disgracing the West.
    - Warmac9999
      
      Never forget Boris!!!!!!
    - Warmac9999
      
      St Petersburg in the winter is wonderful.
Chris

Let me follow Jonathan Katz’ advice and ask you this:

Why are these countries in such bad shape? What can you tell us about their histories?

Here’s what he can tell us about Haiti:

https://twitter.com/KatzOnEarth/status/951656979658870785

And there’s one thing he left out, which is that without the Haitian Revolution, there would not have been a Louisiana Purchase.
- Warmac9999
  
  I find it interesting that all the problems of the third world apparently started with the USA. You might want to check a bit of history and the Spanish involvement in it. The early colonies were minor players in the slave trade but somehow, it is all the fault of the USA and white folk. Shame on you for misrepresenting history.
  - Chris
    
    The transatlantic slave trade began to slow after 1807 when the Royal Navy detailed a squadron to West Africa to interdict all slavers.
    
    But all sorts of bad things happened to Haiti after that and the US was involved in many of them.
    - Warmac9999
      
      So those mean old white people actually did something good. Yet all your comments so far are that whites are the problem not the solution. And, of all people, it was that great racist Democrat, Woodrow Wilson, who sent troops to occupy Haiti because the country refused to pay off its bank loans. After that, the United States was involved in Haiti politics. About the only folks I know of who profited from the decrepit status of Haiti were the Clintons who found a way to “steal” money intended for repair and restoration.
    - smartypup
      
      Obama and Hillary have restarted the slave trade in Libya. Why don’t you rail on about that.
      - Warmac9999
        
        All over the mid-east and now in Muslim dominated cities in Western Europe.
- DJRippert
  
  Your premise is interesting but flawed. Let’s start with Trump’s comments (which he says were inaccurately reported). My understanding is that they were intended a private statements not a public declaration. We deplorables speak like that privately. If anybody thinks that some African countries aren’t ****holes then they don’t understand the actual situation in Africa. Now, onto Haiti. Yes, it’s a mess. And yes, the United States intervened a number of times in Haiti. However, on the same island of Hispaniola, sits the Dominican Republic. It is not a mess and the United States intervened there as recently as the Johnson Administration. In fact, over the past 25 years or so the Dominican has been on something of a tear. It has the third largest population in the Caribbean but the largest economy. Despite having a population of only 10 million people it has the 9th largest economy in Latin America. One of the Dominican’s biggest problems? Stemming the tide of illegal immigration from … wait for it … Haiti. Apparently many Haitians understand President Trump’s sentiments.
  
  Haiti’s problems are partly bad luck from earthquakes, weather tragedies, etc and partly an inability to get to a properly democratic and free market approach. If american intervention doomed Haiti it should have also doomed the Dominican Republic – which it most assuredly did not.
  - Warmac9999
    
    Same Island, two different outcomes.
Chris

“the American culture, which has owned up to its past, tried to right the wrong, and thinks we need to move on and work together is no better than a culture where they kill each other to this day. Example. Take the Rwandan genocide of the mid 1990’s. I don’t see any great world outcry for reparations from one feuding tribe to the other. ”

Fascinating example. Are you familiar with the Rwandan Unity and Reconciliation Commission? That’s why there’s no outcry for reparations.
- Warmac9999
  
  Are you familiar with Zimbabwe and its anti-white dictatorship? Or how about what is happening with an anti-white government in South Africa. Or how about the Rwandan genocidal slaughter of a million Tutsi by Hutus. Yes, there is a Truth Commission, yet there is no cry for reparations – are you suggesting that it is because everyone involved is black? If so, that is racist on its face.
Chris

“Our ancestors may have sinned, but we are not responsible for any wrong they may have done.”

I dunno….if black people are more likely to live in poorer areas (and so were hurt more by the 2008 housing crash)…and serve longer prison sentences for the same crimes as white people…and are more likely to be killed by police officers than white people…are you so sure the sins are all in the past?
- Warmac9999
  
  This sounds like the drivel from the left. Unsupported by facts but quite useful in stirring things up. I suggest you do a bit of homework before you make such blatant statements of opinion masquerading as fact.
  - Chris
    
    Those are all facts.
    - Warmac9999
      
      Then, source them. I suggest that government data be used.
- Deserttrek
  
  I am not responsible , nor are any people I know responsible. Nobody nor does society owe people today for events over 100 years ago. F anybody who thinks I do
  - Eric the half a troll
    
    The events Chris described did not occur 100 years ago but in the present day. That was the point of his comment.
    - Warmac9999
      
      Except he backs it up with nothing. This is typical of the left. Spout something and then, when challenged, just alledge that the something is true because, after all, it must be true.
      - Andrew Olson
        
        You tout the Russian line: Western Democracy is fragmenting and falling apart.
        
        Spread your lies elsewhere.
      - Warmac9999
        
        Natasha makes good lies.
    - Deserttrek
      
      so what? it is not my fault
      the black community has done it to itself along with its masters in the democrat party
      - Warmac9999
        
        You would think that the black community would care about the enslavement of the welfare plantation and what the Democrats have done to them. Unfortunately, 90%+ don’t seem to get it and find it easier to thoughtlessly pull the Democrat lever election after election.
      - Deserttrek
        
        I think more and more individuals are seeing the truth and the 90% will slip
        Long past time for the blacks community to ask their representatives why illegal aliens are so important. If dems want a bigger minority voting block, then make abortion illegal.
        
        Stay well
      - Warmac9999
        
        I would hope so, but in the recent special election in Alabama something like 95% of the black population turned out against Moore.
      - Deserttrek
        
        An expanding black middle class is what is needed. The establishment would rather bring in foreigners than use local talent
      - Warmac9999
        
        Pretty much the case. You wonder if the black community leaders see this or if they are wedded to keeping power by more of the same. So far it is the latter.
      - Deserttrek
        
        Money and power , as long as politicians have that they are happy
      - Eric the half a troll
        
        Really? “The black community” chose to get higher rates or incarceration and longer sentences for the same crimes as whites? Interesting analysis. Do they also chose to be paid far less for equal work?
      - Warmac9999
        
        Here is the problem once again. You allege something and back it up with nothing. Start with the facts from something like the FBI data base, and go from there. If you can’t do that, then your point is valueless.
        
        A couple of articles ago, you made the statement that marijuana isn’t addictive. Unlike you, I actually looked up the issue of marijuana and addiction – and what you allege is untrue. Marijuana is considered addictive by the medical profession, and as the quantity of THC rises, it become more addictive and more injurious. It was quite easy for you to google marijuana and addiction as I did, but you preferred not to do so.
        
        Debate based on an emotional commitment to a lie isn’t a debate
      - Andrew Olson
        
        Hell, television is on the addicition list along with computer gaming.
        
        Warmac, you are a Russian troll.
      - Warmac9999
        
        I like Boris!!!!!
      - Deserttrek
        
        crime, drugs, birth out of wedlock
        get a grip on reality
      - Eric the half a troll
        
        What about those things? You think that they justify such treatment by the “white community”? Is that what you are saying? They do not justify higher incarceration FOR THE SAME CRIMES or lower pay FOR THE SAME WORK.
      - Wolf Whistle
        
        Men have higher incarceration rates than women for the same crimes, and suffer more police brutality than women do. How do you justify that ? How do you justify such treatment by the “female community” ? What about those things ?
      - Warmac9999
        
        Women cry a lot more when they finish committing their crimes. At least that seems to be part of the answer. (chuckle).
      - Deserttrek
        
        white community ? bye bye racist boy
      - Eric the half a troll
        
        You are really pitiful. I put “white community” in quotes to poke you for using the term “black community”. Step it up a bit, this is too easy.
      - Deserttrek
        
        bye bye loser , try a job and moving out of grammies basement
      - Andrew Olson
        
        What’s that? You’re leaving to try to get a job and move out of your grandmother’s basement?
        
        Best wishes. It’s about time you did so, Desertrek.
      - Deserttrek
        
        another loser spews its idocy
        less luncheon meats in your diet will help pedrast
      - Andrew Olson
        
        A badge of honor from a cretin like yourself! Your level of discourse reveals a miniscule IQ unworthy of further discussion.
      - Eric the half a troll
        
        There are way worthier opponents here, y’know, Andrew. No challenge with this one…disappointing…
      - Deserttrek
        
        bye bye pederast
      - mark Jawsz
        
        Blacks get lower pay for the same work? What study is that from? Or did you pull it our of the air?
      - Eric the half a troll
        
        “Through the use of statistical controls, sociologists and economists “ask whether a given person with the same background characteristics, such as level of education, region of residence, gender, marital characteristics, has the same earnings as a statistically equivalent person from a different racial/ethnic group”.[5] Differences that emerge are taken as evidence of racial discrimination. Research has found wage and employment discrimination against blacks”
      - Warmac9999
        
        Those same studies will tell you that women don’t make as much as men for the same job.
      - Wally Wally
        
        (Because Amren has banned me from commenting, for some odd reason, I’m forced to respond here to a comment you made for the following Amren article:inside public school social justice factory )
        
        You said:
        
        Hence, the “racial achievement gap” is really an evolution gap.
        
        How much IQ ‘horse power’ is needed to sufficiently master the K – 12 education curriculum?
      - mark Jawsz
        
        They may get longer sentences “for the same crimes as whites” but they likley have much longer rap sheets (criminal records). Your leftist Jedi mindtricks don’t work here.
      - Warmac9999
        
        I doubt he has even checked the statistics. He or she seems to just throw out some leftist talking point.
      - Eric the half a troll
        
        That is not the retort you are looking for:
        
        “Black men who commit the same crimes as white men receive federal prison sentences that are, on average, nearly 20 percent longer, according to a new report on sentencing disparities from the United States Sentencing Commission (USSC).
        
        These disparities were observed “after controlling for a wide variety of sentencing factors,” including age, education, citizenship, weapon possession and prior criminal history.“
      - Wolf Whistle
        
        Eric, I’m still waiting for a response to my point. Women serve shorter sentences than men for the same crime and are less likely to suffer violence at the hands of police. Is it women’s fault, are they to blame for the fact that men spend more time in jail, should they be ashamed of it, do women owe men something because of that ?
        
        And in advance, I pretty much DARE YOU to say that it isn’t the same because men really deserve more time for the same crime, and that they deserve what they have coming to them because they are men and are more prone to violence, have less evolved morals than women, etc … because that is exactly the argument that white supremacists made about African Americans in the 19th and 20th centuries.
      - Eric the half a troll
        
        IF all other variables are equal then men and women should receive equal sentences. I suspect black women serve longer sentences than white, eh? The system is clearly flawed.
      - Wolf Whistle
        
        Oh I’m not playing some kind of word game with you Eric, sentencing for black men is 20% longer than for white men according to BLM sources I’ve seen. Sentencing for men is MUCH longer, in one study 63% longer than for women.
        
        So ask yourself … why isn’t the Democratic party out there trying to fix this problem ? If the goal is to help people, without regards to race or sex, shouldn’t this sentencing issue between men and women take a higher priority than between black and white ? Also, whites have lower salaries than Asians, and suffer higher incidents of police violence than Asians. Shouldn’t we be looking into that too ?
        
        But you already know why we aren’t … why nobody cares. It’s because African Americans and women are protected classes to Democrats and make up a high percentage of Democratic voters. Men in general, no, nobody gives a *&^%, least of all Democrats.
        
        Simple math – 20% longer for African Americans vs whites, African Americans representing approx 14% of the population. OR, 63% longer sentences for men who are 49% of the population. Why aren’t we focusing our attention where it could do the most good, Eric ?
        
        You don’t even want to believe this is true. In your response to mine you emphasized “IF”, because you don’t want to believe that men serve longer sentences for the same crime than women. How would you feel if when you said African Americans serve longer sentences than white men people said “IF all other variables are the same …” as if they were trying to cast doubt on whether what you were saying was even true ?
      - Wolf Whistle
        
        And if it isn’t obvious, I know you don’t have any kind of clever answer for this Eric, in fact, I doubt you’ve ever even considered it before. It isn’t like Huffpo is out there writing about the plight of men in sentencing or something, I doubt you’ve ever even seen an article about it. I’m just trying to get you to see the complete hypocrisy of some of the arguments you are perpetuating. I know you didn’t come up with them on your own, but you are perpetuating them.
        
        Imagine if we tried to argue that men were oppressed by women, that women were responsible for men dying earlier, for men having higher incidents of workplace deaths, for men having higher rates of homelessness, etc … which is all true by the way, but how would you feel if we tried to make it seem like all that was women’s fault and that they should be ashamed of their own gender for their role in this oppression ? That’s how absurd your arguments sound to a lot of people.
      - Eric the half a troll
        
        I have demonstrated that all other factors have been accounted for in the conclusion that black are discriminated against in sentencing. You have not in your claim. Hence the IF. But IF true, this just makes it worse for black men which impacts the community already impacted by employment discrimination for generations.
      - Warmac9999
        
        I believe in individual responsibility for individual choices. You apparently want to hide being an assumption.
  - Warmac9999
    
    What is interesting is that the black community was working its way out of impoverishment until the US government came along and created policies that broke up the black family. Most of the black folks I work with are successful family men and women – and are so in spite of the government patting them on the head and excusing anti-social behavior. ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help” isn’t appreciated by these successful folks.
- Wolf Whistle
  
  “more like to live in poorer areas”
  
  You know that white people make up the overwhelming majority of poor people in this country, right ? Ever hear of Appalachia ?
  - Warmac9999
    
    But that is inconvenient to the narrative. Blacks are the only poor and everybody knows it regardless of facts.
  - ameri…canwork
    
    Only one person (other than myself) spoke of poor Appalachia;
    Patriot Jim Webb.
  - DJRippert
    
    “Likely” is a statement of probability. African-Americans are more likely to be poor than European Americans (I guess that’s the equivalent term). There may be more poor whites than blacks but the probability of being poor is higher for African-Americans. I am unsure as to what Chris things should be done about this but his or her statement is accurate.
    - Warmac9999
      
      I call this grievance justifying. It achieves nothing but it does perpetuate the welfare plantation run by Democrats.
- Wolf Whistle
  
  “and serve longer prison sentences for the same crimes …”
  
  You know that men serve longer prison sentences for the same crimes than women ? Does that mean that women owe men something ?
  
  “are more likely to be killed by police officers …”
  
  You know that men are more likely to be killed by police officers than women ? Does that mean that women owe men something ?
- mark Jawsz
  
  Black people commit violent crimes at five times the national average. Of course more of them are going to be killed by the police.
  - Warmac9999
    
    The other side of this ugly coin is how many police have been killed by black thugs.
Warmac9999

The left will never give up the club of racism as long as it is of benefit to use it. Even though the Republican Party was and is the anti-slavery party, the Democrats have managed to convince impoverished black folks that a hand out is better than a hand up. The deal the Democrats have proffered is – you give me your vote and I will give you something of material value in exchange. The fact that conditions get worse on the welfare plantation doesn’t seem to change things – and appeal to reason is nowhere near as potent as appeal to grievance.

As far as our ancestors having sinned, I take a different approach. They were the ones to undo slavery not to perpetuate it. If you want to see it perpetuated, go to the muslim slave traders in the mid-east who raided and bargained to profit off the trading of slaves well beyond the American Civil war era. Even today, the ancestors of those slave traders still practice the art of slave capture and trade (see ISIS and the Yazidi women). So, in answer to Chris, we are responsible for eliminating wrongs and providing a safe place for former slaves. Is it a perfect place? No, and it can never be because humans are not perfect.

One final point, slavery was virtually eliminated in the North at the time of the Civil War. Slavery or indentured servitude had died out because it was not profitable – good forbid we use a capitalist argument. Even in the South, slavery was more of a cultural situation than a profitable situation, and probably would have died out as both technology and concerns over human dignity would have prevailed – See Washington and Jefferson on the subject. (I believe it was DeTocqueville who noted that the free states were far more industrious than the slave states because freemen work for themselves to better themselves and to profit from their labors.)

By the way, my ancestors were Northerners going back to the Revolution. I don’t share the guilt of attributed racism because some of them fought against the South and to free the slaves. Frankly, it kind of angers me that all white men and women are lumped into the same mold. It is like lumping all black people into the lazy and good for nothing mold. In my mind, Trump was referring to the national cultures of Haiti and many African countries. And, quite frankly, many are the worst of nations if they can even be called nations in the modern sense.
- Eric the half a troll
  
  “As far as our ancestors having sinned, I take a different approach. They were the ones to undo slavery not to perpetuate it.”
  
  The south is the core of the GOP today. It did not undo slavery nor did it undo Jim Crow. The south (particularly the rural south again the core of the GOP) continues to be the hotbed of blatant racism today. These are facts that you can not re-write.
  - Warmac9999
    
    And the hotbed of blatant racism in the Democrat Party happens to be the black ghettos and the social justice warriors of any color. This is a fact you can not re-write. You seem to think that white folk are the only racists and that they are all in the rural south. Well, the BLM and ANTIFA are on the rise and they are racist in the extreme.
    - Eric the half a troll
      
      I did not say anything about the GOP having exclusive rights to racism. I simply challenged your claim that the GOP undid slavery. The GOP of today did no such thing and such an inference should never stand.
      - Warmac9999
        
        So, to you, Lincoln (r) never freed the slaves.
      - Eric the half a troll
        
        As I said, the party of Lincoln is not the GOP of today. Quite the opposite. Your party has no legitimate claim to Lincoln. You squandered that when you fought on the wrong side of civil rights – but you reclaimed the rural white vote of the south. Congratulations!
      - mark Jawsz
        
        80% of Republican Congressmen supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
      - Eric the half a troll
        
        And then 78% of Republicans voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1990. You see…?
      - Warmac9999
        
        So you liked racial quotas. No surprise there. By the way, Bush signed the 1991 version of the 1990 Bill after the language eliminated racial quotas.
      - Warmac9999
        
        The GOP of today couldn’t undo racism as slavery ended before any of them were born.
  - HaroldCh8
    
    ” The south (particularly the rural south again the core of the GOP) continues to be the hotbed of blatant racism today. These are facts that you can not re-write.”
    
    Utter BS. I am from Boston, and that city is truly racist. Virginia (yes, even rural VA) is a beacon of racial harmony by comparison.
    - Warmac9999
      
      The Irish mafia doesn’t take kindly to people who get in their way.
      - Andrew Olson
        
        As compared with which other mafias?
      - Warmac9999
        
        Obviously, the Russian mafia.
  - mark Jawsz
    
    A black person walking in the rural south is FAR SAFER than a white man walking in a black Baltimore neighborhood. You know it, and I know it.
    - Warmac9999
      
      Even in tourist areas of Baltimore’s Inner Harbor. People leaving events and restaurants have been set upon by roving gangs of young black thugs. This has been happening on a regular basis, and the Baltimore Chief of Police has expressed a “so what” type of attitude. Well, as the word gets out, the Inner Harbor businesses which pay a lot of Baltimore taxes are going to experience less tourist traffic.
- Andrew Olson
  
  Very impressed. Translating that from Russian took time and effort.
  - Warmac9999
    
    It was from Mandarin to Russian to American.
Wolf Whistle

The worst “ism” in politics at the moment is Democrat’s unwavering belief that they are morally, culturally, and intellectually superior to the backwards, technologically inferior, less educated, superstitious (their view) rural people who vote against them in every election. Of course, for all of their Psych 101 babble, they can’t see that they are the ones who are projecting when they call people racists … they can’t see that they are the ones who are getting the little dopamine hit every time they say something that makes them feel superior to the rest of humanity.
- Warmac9999
  
  You hit it on the head. They believe without facts or reason. It is convenient to feel strongly about something because it doesn’t require much work or thought.
  - Andrew Olson
    
    It has nothing whatsoever to do with party affiliation. You will find people on both sides of the aisle who believe without facts or reason. How very comforting to think it so cut and dried, but misleading in the extreme.
    - Warmac9999
      
      How convenient to ignore the real differences between the left and the right. I am a constitutional conservative. I struggle to get the facts and analyze them rationally, and I am not always right and willing to admit as such. Far too many on the left don’t struggle with the facts, they just emote, and cut off debate when any opposing idea is expressed. I wonder if you ever watch the View or some of the other leftist shows. Facts aren’t really necessary or important as long as you are on the current politically correct side of an issue.
      
      I suggest you look up what happened to Adam Levine, a gay Jewish kid raised in a Democrat family who came out for Trump. The title of his article is “Coming Out As A Republican To My Democrat Family Went Worse Than Coming Out Gay”. it is well articulated and quite poignant.
      - Andrew Olson
        
        There are real differences between left and right but neither has a monopoly on facts or reason. Warmac, you are surely evidence to the truth of that statement.
      - Wolf Whistle
        
        Equivocating again ? Relativism at work.
        
        I look at it and I think conservatives are making a lot more sense than the leftists, by miles. I don’t even see it as being close. During the last election all I heard were Leftists going after conservatives with nothing but rhetoric – calling conservatives racists, misogynists, saying that conservatives don’t care about the poor, I didn’t hear any reason in it at all, I just heard hate and irrational emotion. I’m okay with enforcing immigration law and tax reform, that makes sense to me. I’m not saying all political parties don’t have issues, but to say you don’t see any differences between left and right on facts and reasons makes zero sense to me.
      - Andrew Olson
        
        I repeat for clarity: There are real differences between left and right but neither has a monopoly on facts or reason.
        
        That you disagree simply tells us your definitions are different than most. For example, I think John McCain is a fine American, a good Republican and exemplary citizen. He is an excellent conservative role model, much as was Ike before him.
        
        Yet I read here that he is not held in the same regard by all here. Indeed, the reliably Republican Fauquier County is by some accounts here not conservative, is more — what did you call it, GOPe?
        
        As a result, even voting as a Republican does not qualify here on TBE as conservative. Even serving as a Republican US Senator does not qualify here on TBE as conservative, where some Republicans are denounced as leftist or worse.
        
        All participants confuse ends and means, mistakenly thinking the former justifies the latter. As Jeanine observed about the recount, the outcome is what matters to her. I can understand that, but it doesn’t feel conservative to think about ends justifying the means. Quite the opposite.
      - Warmac9999
        
        Good Republicans don’t invite Democrats to be on their presidential ticket.
      - Warmac9999
        
        You are correct. Neither has a monopoly on facts. The difference is the right tries to use them while the left ignores the ones they don’t like or even makes them up. Today’s case in point, Joy Reid blamed the US. Pacific Command for the false Hawaii missile alert and Trump by inference. The facts, unfortunate for her, was someone in the Democrat run State’s employ accidentally hit the wrong button. If she were a real news person, she would have tried to get the facts and not just make them up. This was and is a very serious mistake with massive implications. There were people hiding children in storm drains, others who utterly panicked, – and this in the State that still bears the Pearl Harbor scars. This type of media mistake and fakery isn’t coming from the right, it is almost entirely from the left. I presume you saw the project veritae videos which showed Twitter employees manipulating twitter to distort anything conservative. Twitter, Facebook, and google employees aren’t known for their conservative leanings. There is no equality of political opinion when it comes to reporting the facts
      - mark Jawsz
        
        I came out as a conservative long ago, and my extended Jewish family (on my mother’s side) declared me personna non grata. Worst part is that I am no longer invited to any my cousins’ kids’ bar mitzvahs. That is a shame because I do love chopped liver.
      - Warmac9999
        
        This has always confused me. The Jewish community in the USA is among the most radical left of the Democrat Party (Over 70% vote Democrat). On the other side of the world, the Jewish community in Israel is among the most radical right.
        
        What is or should be concerning to American Jews is that within a few years, the muslim population of the USA will exceed the Jewish population. When that happens, the question is whether the Jewish community will be as badly treated here as they are in France, Germany, and the UK? ( I read the Pamela Geller website on occasion and things appear to be increasingly worrisome for European Jews.)
        
        Somehow, the USA Jewish community seems to think that liberalism is a protective shield against antisemitism (and that the Democrats won’t throw them away to get more muslim votes). Liberalism obviously isn’t a protection yet the politics of the Jewish community haven’t changed. ( I have a very good and quite old Jewish friend. He is a conservative but virtually the entirety of his family is leftist. Unlike Adam Levine, he keeps quiet for the sake of family unity.)
Eric the half a troll

Seeing as how this is a foreign policy-type post I am going to go off-topic to announce that there was a false alarm (mistaken or hacked) missile alert in Hawaii a few minutes ago. Trump was on the golf course when it happened. Just an FYI.
- Eric the half a troll
  
  Given that Trump apparently did nothing but golf while Hawaii was freaking out over an incoming missile attack alert, Kim Jong Un now knows how to launch a first strike while Trump is in office: just wait for a him to be on a weekend golf outing. He should have plenty of opportunity.
  - Warmac9999
    
    Sort of like Clinton golfing when the CIA said they could get rid of bin Laden? However, we don’t have to wait for Trump. All we have to do is get a government employee to butt dial a nuclear missile alert. If I was Un, I would just plant someone in an alert location and let them go to town on the buttons. Your comment is about as ignorant as it can get in that it assumes the president doesn’t have a secure line of communications regardless of where he is or what he is doing.
    
    By the way, Clinton was contacted about the bin Laden situation and he responded that he would get back to the CIA after he finished his round of golf. You can check that out.
    - Andrew Olson
      
      No one golfs more than Trump. So what’s your point?
      
      Righto. The West is crumbling under the weight of democracy …
      - Warmac9999
        
        The opposite. It is crumbling under the weight of socialism.
      - Andrew Olson
        
        Socialism chosen by democracies. Even the US is socialist, as you so often observe. You are doing the work of Putin and you know it. I think it likely unwitting, but one never knows.
      - Warmac9999
        
        Hey! I am running out of Russia stuff. I got nothing on Moscow. Did read a “Day in the life of Ivan Denisovich”. You would like it.
- Warmac9999
  
  How do you know it was a false alarm? Maybe it was a test or maybe we shot it down and made up a story. You spend far too much time reading or listening to fake news.
HaroldCh8

The greatest thing is now that we know Haiti and such are in fact thriving nations we can deport them all back there without any moral conundrum. Thanks Democrats for setting us straight!
- Warmac9999
  
  Well, Liberia was set up to help the freed slaves. So maybe Africa would be better.
mark Jawsz

I wonder why all those liberals back in 2016 threatened to go to Canada or Europe if Trump would be elected, but not Mexico. After all, isn’t Mexico a whole lot closer to Hollywood than Canada? It’s one of those things that makes me go hmmmmm.
- Warmac9999
  
  Outstanding point. Mexico is warmer and has great beaches. Could it be that the hallowed Hollywood leftists really think Canada is great but Mexico is a s*ithole?

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