I think all the candidates, with the exception of Donald Trump, proved worthy of being our nominee.
I went into the debate convinced that Trump is unprepared and indeed lacking the class to be President. After two hours my feelings about him were confirmed.
Trump’s lowlights from last night:
When asked if everyone on the stage would support the eventual nominee, all said yes, except Trump. He boldly stated he could only promise to support himself. Yes, that’s our Donald looking out for number 1. Country number 2.
When asked about the 4 times the Trump organization went bankrupt, in true clintonian style he claimed he didn’t go bankrupt, just the companies he ran. I bet the investors are relieved to hear that.
When asked about his statement that he was “extremely pro choice” on abortion, he said he “evolved.” What happened? Well if I understand his answer, he knew a lady who was thinking of having an abortion, but she decided to give birth. Trump said the kid turned out to be a real winner, so Trump concluded abortion is bad. I wonder if the kid turned out to be a loser, would Trump have remained “extremely pro choice?”
On the question about giving money to Hillary Clinton, Trump was asked what he got in exchange. He said, well by giving her money (nearly $100,000) she was then compelled to attend his 3rd wedding. I wonder what he got for giving money to Nancy Pelosi? Did she have to attend his second wedding?
When asked about his claim that the Mexican government is sending murderers and rapists to the United States, specifically what evidence he had for such a charge, Trump of course provided no such evidence.
In true Trump fashion he was full of bravado, but totally vapid. He said he’d be the “exact opposite of Obama” and that “We’d win again.” No substance, just rhetoric. But that’s Trump: an empty, albeit expensive, suit.
Trump’s Rough Night
Originally posted on The Virginia Gentleman
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Interesting headlines today.
NBC and Survey Monkey says Trump is Terrific.
Australian Bush Rider Murdoch Fox Up His Own Network.
Thanks for the heads up on that! I’ve been dying to know how Trump would do in the polls after the debate. There should be more polling by tomorrow.
Hi Folks !!
Thanks for your comments! Far better than a lot of the brain dead shill-like commentary I’ve seen so far on the candidates at the Bull Elephant! In fact, the articles and comments were getting to be so hopelessly idiotic status quo nonsense that I considered maybe I should not waste my time here.
If there is any hope, it’s from the grassroots folks who refuse being bought and sold like a non-living commodity.
Thanks again
Thanks you! Thinks are beginning to improve now that I have taken out the trash. If they are going to bash our candidates and the grassroots they’ll have to do it on their own blogs, not here.
How will Trump fare? The establishment complex is against Trump, and many of the folks supporting Trump only support Trump because they are fed up with idiot politicians that lie, lie, lie … and sell the base down the river as soon as the election polls are closed.
I suppose running for president is good business for Trump. If you have a 10 billion dollar business, and a lot of it is in New York City, it real nice to have national exposure from sea to shinning sea. The reason? With high public interest, local political and mob thugs are going to be more cautious in stepping on your toes than if than if you were just a local low profile individual, and ditto for bank lenders. And so, all the attention is extra business security and well worth the money spent.
Years ago, I watched Ron Paul. I particularly was want to watch Ron Paul speak at House banking committee hearings. Paul was the man with the tin hat that bored all the committee members who couldn’t wait for the fool to shut up. I am sure that none on the banking committee ever suspected that always speaking towards constitutional truth, even when no one is looking, would set the foundations of the Ron Paul Revolution. My problem is that the Republican never put up a Ron Paul mainly because, underneath all the talk, the Republican establishment has not interest in electing folks who want legitimate American government.
This year, I read Gibbon on the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. I figure that the Roman world crash largely because the Roman world was largely functioning in destruction auto-pilot mode. With the corruption and stupidity a way of life, there was no redeeming Rome. Roman was displaced, not so much by the barbarians as by the Christian way of thought that arose out of the ashes. Going to Romper Room-like local committee meetings does little to abuse of my the UNITED STATES in flying to its death autopilot mission.
There is always the hope that things will get so bad that even the blind will get sight. But until then mealy mouthed tell-them-what-you-think-they-want-to-hear sound bite wonders is not going to save America. And even a course plain spoken opportunist like Trump will on render up a better administration of a corrupt carcass. That would be a reprieve for awhile, but no cure for a brain death soulless maladministration of government.
Written out of sadness for a once wonder country to live in!
Great post. Thanks for taking the time to share it.
Hi Jeanine …
Availability of remedy appears to be beyond present means. Even so, the inspiration of Ron Paul should be to the beneficial effect of always speaking to principle no matter how little the immediate political advantage … or even if none at all.
Better to strive for shining character and truthful authenticity than dwell in vacuous vapors.
Dave
Well said!
A wise woman taught me a few years ago to always vote my principles and that has served me well.
I as well, like Mr. McKissack’s comment herein, am trying to understand the logic behind the “hate your base” scenario among many Republican party thinkers who would rather vilify long time Republican and conservative base voters that are fed up with the party’s broken promises and outrageous surrenders and find some consultation in Trump’s message of attacking the problems (I didn’t say solutions by the way). The RNC has stood the function of a party on it’s head and placed organization ahead of it’s only true role – membership. It has come to emulate the thing it largely serves today the federal bureaucratic structure where the elite rule, the masses obey and mass media judges. Step outside that paradigm and you will feel the full wrath of the self appointed masters. Today we have those that have totally bought into that paradigm, those that are unwilling to accept this as fact and believe everything will be OK and it’s business as usual, those that see the fracturing and are choosing their sides and those that have just given up and walked away from the brand and view themselves as independents in the political arena. Short term the candidate that can stitch together enough support within this fractured process will capture the ring, the main event that is another question altogether. As for the party’s future that is a far murkier prospect in the hands of its current leadership.
Tell me about it! It’s happening all over, including right here in Virginia politics.
The whole debate was designed to vilify all but Jeb Bush. Really read the questions asked of each candidate and see where Fox is leading.
The very first question put trump at a disadvantage, I’ve never heard such a question before. Have you heard from God Mr. Cruz??
What kind of stupid question was that? Open your eyes people even FOX is working toward a Jeb nomination Vote for anyone else, Jeb is a democrat. I am afraid of the third party split, look at VIRGINIA governor race when Soros funded Sarvis joined, giving terrible Terry the spot. I think Ted Cruz might be the answer, although he has a lack of experience.
We are sick of the establishment RINOs. Trump is a breath of fresh air and speaks for the silent majority. (As a baby boomer who remembers Spiro Agnew this is a hard thing for me to write but it is true). Trump 2016!! FoxNews is going to lose big over this mess. I will never watch Megyn Kelly again. They will NEVER get ratings for a debate as large as these again.
They will only get those ratings because of Trump.
No vigor or passion in the Republican cookie cutter republicans.
Without Trump, the Fox ratings would have been in the toilet. The media has already turned this election into a profit circus.
Trumph being on stage probably made more money for Fox News in one night than anybody or anything in history.
This election is not about the White House. It is about money. Who can make the right wing owned media the most money, and who has the keys to the U.S. Treasury.
Britt Hume said the debate would bring out the candidates stance on many issues
and what plans they may have.
Megan Kelly then started with the tabloid issues …………….
So much for the ideas of candidate who is leading with the independent vote.
Yea sometimes his comments are lame but not like the questioning. Missed opportunity for intellect at Fox.
Call the opponent racist , democrat , not republican , is this the game plan for all republicans running for President of ” America ” , { not GOP }
Fox News is nothing more than a Republican “trumpet”. A trumpet that only plays the tunes picked by the rich.
Sorta like a juke box, the rich put a nickle in, and Fox News plays their tune!
In my opinion, that whole debate was rigged by the elite. Megan, Chris, and Brett do as those who sign their contracts tell them, or else.
You are correct about Fox News.
Thursday Fox had many contestant’s on the stage with pretty make-up many with artificial attributes.
I wonder what the ratings were on The FS1 Hooters Bikini Contest.
I am sure Fox was looking for more news girls there.
How is that for a non issue jab? See anyone can do it.
It’s also the game plan for the Establishment Republicans who hope to be in charge again in Virginia. They are desperate to get rid of people like you, me, the Grassroots, the Tea Party, Dave Brat, and the average voter who is sick to death of how they govern and how the tax!
Let’s agree on this one!
You got it! I think we would agree on a lot if I had better communication skills.
This article is basically written by the establishment, through the hand of a lobbyist. Nothing more than a “hired mouth” with a brief case, credit card, and corporate funded checkbook for PAC and campaign contributions.
I would believe and do just the opposite of what Mr. Shepard writes.
Is that the same “silent majority” that’s elected Republican presidents the last 8 years and Republican state-wide leaders in Virginia?
When you have weak candidates running for the presidency, you have a weak turnout. Looks like the squishy establishment types were the ones that bailed on the state-wide elections in 2013.
ok, then answer this: who is, in your view, the non-squishy, non- establishment candidate that can win the WH?
Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson, & Scott Walker would be fantastic! Any should be able to defeat the extremely flawed Mrs. Cankles.
Good list. I would add Marco Rubio.
Until Marco joined the “Gang of Eight,” I was a fan of his. Unfortunately, allowing himself to get roped in with the likes of McCain, Graham and Flake (failing “F” grades) showed a total lack of judgment on his part and has damaged his conservative standing in my view. I believe Marco can defeat the Hildebeast as well, I just don’t trust him on immigration or his common sense.
https://www.conservativereview.com/Scorecard
This story is not fact but one mans interpretation.
All candidates seem worthy except Trump , BS
Donald number 1 , Country number 2 , more BS.
Let me make this very clear from a business stand point.
By Trump not taking on a pledge is great!
No good business man would sign a no compete clause , thus he would put America 1st and the republican party somewhere else down the line where all parties should be.
Then we will discuss tax reform , a consumption tax { good idea } except for when
citizens use it to help fund our local budgets.
Then you will have disloyal Congressman like { R } Robert Hurt 5th District use outside money to fight your communities desire to fund you fine conservative public school.
The CCRP these upcoming elections will have only 100 one way republicans.
Yes in the large area of Lynchburg , VA. so much fine Christian Education and the CCRP can only bring in 100 shame they out cast 600 fine conservatives.
Some here are more concerned with the narrow minded ” protectionist viewpoint ” of the Republican Party.
Don’t forget the money that will be spent on advertising for the citizens loyal to America not political party.
It is good to see the fear of Trump here.
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So there’s a sizable number of people — many who normally vote Republican — who are venting their anger and frustration through a guy named Trump. Isolating and attacking this guy Trump could not only cause those voters to not vote in 2016, it could also make him form a third party (which may have been the reason Clinton urged him to get into the race). That would insure the GOP loses and perhaps dies.
So why is it a good idea to pound on this guy Trump, when it only makes his followers more intent on sticking it to the Republican Establishment?
If his followers are truly irrational, then there’s little that can be done about them. The only alternative to criticizing him is not criticizing him, and that’s an unacceptable alternative.
What s irrational is voting for the squishy establishment types that keep reneging on their campaign promises.
No reasonable person can fail to view the non-actions of the Republican Congress vis a vis Executive Amnesty and ObamaCare as anything other than a betrayal of trust. It is not “irrational” to consider it so. They lied through their teeth. John Boehner now hold the Speakership with the help of Democrats. Mitch McConnell continues to construct failure theater to avoid aggressively opposing Obama policies. To think accepting that behavior will strengthen the GOP is what’s irrational.
Trump is uniquely unfit to represent the Republican Party, or to be president. His boorish behavior and vacuous bluster clearly demonstrated that. He is clearly incapable of overcoming his stunning arrogance, his abiding anger, or to cease his childish name calling. Hard to believe that some pundits wondered whether Trump would abandon his usual bluster, and play the statesman. The fact that he is willing to “throw” the election to the Dems if we don’t grovel for his services was all I needed to hear. In fairness, we should thank him for assuring a record audience to watch our other 16 candidates.
Why are you allowing liberals to contribute on this used to be conservative blog site?
The provocation of thought will expose the truth politicians cloak.
Good question. I’m working on correcting that. I have taken the trash out. Several of the haters have been banned. They can call the grassroots names, but they’ll have to do on some other blog.
Thank you Jeanine.
I lack the power to imagine a series of events or constellation of situations that could ultimately lead me to cast a vote for Donald Trump. That includes an alien gummy bear invasion with subsequent threats of being buried and suffocated with the combined sugary greatness of a million pixie sticks.
Haha, that’s funny!