Mr. Whitbeck, I say again, answer the questions that need answered! I’m repeating myself a bit because the important questions remain unanswered and were only met with curses and obfuscation in private conversations.
Sources close to interim RPV Chairman John Whitbeck are now telling us that Mr. Whitbeck has changed his story regarding the beforehand knowledge of the check written to the Henrico GOP from his personal Victory Fund. Mr. Whitbeck’s story is now that the Victory Fund check of $3,050.00, signed by RPV Executive Director John Findlay, which was used to cover the 122 Seventh District Pre-file forms for the VCN anti-convention supporting ticket, was written and distributed without his prior knowledge. In short, he says he didn’t know about the checks and forms until after they were turned in, even though the check was written from his personal Victory Fund. Doesn’t that contradict his previous statement? I ask again, what’s really going on here?
Also of note, one of those Whitbeck-paid anti-convention pre-file forms was former Senator Walter Stosch’s, a member of the infamous Republican Senate Gang of Five. The Gang of Five also included John Chichester and Ken Stolle, who cut the deal with Democrat Governor Mark Warner on his tax increase. This is all a bit odd for someone who calls himself a conservative, isn’t it?
*In the interest of full disclosure and because of a whole lot of double talk, deception, unprofessional tirades against other bloggers and former Party Chairs, and my firm belief that RPV is a sinking ship that needs repair, I am now endorsing/supporting Vince Haley’s campaign for Chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia in an UNPAID capacity. I believe that the Party is in shambles and with the exception of the talented Cathy Bolden and Frank Loehr, needs a major shakeup in order to get in a viable position to serve our Republican candidates. Too many balls are being dropped on too many fronts and only by making a change at RPV could we ever hope to fix that situation.
How many checks were written by others challenging for other seats? Maybe in another county? Hmmmm
Caroline always has filing fees paid by people from out of the county for delegates who appear every time there is a convention and who otherwise do nothing to help us in any way throughout the year. This year we had one paid for by Russ Moulton who lives in Stafford and I have a copy of the check and also previous checks where people from several counties away were manipulating our delegates. BUT this is how conventions work and they are much, much easier to manipulate than primaries and tremendous amounts of money are spent so the argument that they don’t cost is simply ridiculous. I have worked logistics for many conventions and been the clean up crew as well. Tens of thousands of dollars are spent by candidates on collateral which ends up knee deep on the convention floor. All of this outrage over whose paying what is called CONVENTION. Who do you think pays for the buses that people get bused in to conventions on and even meals? Since we have a convention and I am a volunteer for this one as well, lest you say I am not a team player, lets stop complaining about the methods which are used by a myriad of people to affect the outcome. This happens every single time there is a convention.
I paid my own filing fees and for the hotel. Where do I turn in my receipts? I hate being out of the loop.
Depends on which way the wind is blowing and whose personal ambition must be uplifted at said convention and the ambition does not discriminate between supposed “establishment” or the up can coming “real conservatives” who are now firmly the establishment they hated so much. its whoever can pay. One of the 1st ones I ever worked came complete with fleets of rental buses and rented Mercedes.
Aww,the good old days.
One does expect one’s party leader to be above such low-life tactics.
Even if he is an interim chairman.
Aren’t filing fees optional? If so, then what the heck is the point of writing a check to cover them?
Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Smile, consider it party-building — take the money, and elect who the delegates want to elect. If three grand can buy your election away from you, you deserve to lose.
You don’t actually have to pay to be a delegate as far as I know. So I don’t see any advantage to anyone paying voluntary filing fees for anyone else. Granted I’ve only been to conventions in the 2nd and 3rd so maybe in the 7th they are mandatory?
Yes, in some districts you must pay to attend the district convention. The fees are not voluntary. In the 7th and the 11th (and possibly others) the fees are mandatory.
Actually, Delegates who did not pay the fee can still attend and vote for National Delegates (3) and Alternates (3) and voice vote in Dave Brat. Again, the mandatory fee ($25) is to be able to vote for the 3 State Central Committee seats and also we will be voice voting in Ben Slone as our new 7th District Chairman (he too was unopposed).
There was a mandatory fee of $25 in the Call for the 7th District convention Delegates who want to vote for State Central Committee seats. There is a voluntary fee to voice vote in Congressman Dave Brat as the nominee (no one opposed him) and for National Delegates.
Delegate filing fees can be (and are) mandatory under the following circumstances.: The District Committee must decide to impose them. And the filing fees can only be required if you want to vote on party offices such as the Chairman’s race or State Central Committee positions.
Here in the 11th we have “Paid” and “Unpaid” Delegates. the Unpaid Delegates can only vote on Delegates to the national convention. This system is the result of litigation that challenged the constitutionality of such fees from before my time.
Thank you for the clarification. Now that you mention it, I do recall having heard that before. I’ve just never had to pay down here.
In several districts they were mandatory if you wanted to vote for state central members or chairmen.
Walter Stocsch couldn’t afford to pay to pay his own filing fees?