UPDATE: The article below I wrote over two years ago. Yesterday it happened again, another mass shooting, this time at a high school in Florida. Our thoughts and prayers go out to families and friends of those 17 students who lost their lives. Such a terrible, senseless, tragedy. The very disturbed shooter Nikolas Cruz had been expelled from the school and it was well known that he had a fascination with knives and guns.
Nikolas and his biological brother were adopted by an older couple when Nikolas was an infant. His mother, Lynda Marie Cruz, was 49 years old and his father, Roger Paul Cruz, was 62. Roger died in 2004, when Nikolas was only 4 or 5. Nikolas’s mother died just a few months ago. Like so many of the mass shooters, young Nikolas grew up without a father in the home and with a fascination for guns.
Others have noticed the link between school shooters and fatherless homes.
Earlier post published October 2, 2015
The one common thread among all the recent mass shooters is they are children of single of mothers. These young men had no male role models in their homes. For 50 years, our society has encouraged women to be single mothers despite all the research proving it is detrimental to a child to be born into a home without a father. Children born to single mothers are twice as likely to become delinquent.
Children of single mothers are more likely to be in special education classes in school, more likely to drop out of school, more likely to experiment with drugs and alcohol at an early age, and more likely to become delinquent and to be incarcerated. There are no men on death row from intact families. Children of single mothers are more likely to witness domestic violence in their homes and more likely to repeat the pattern of domestic violence. Children born to a married couple are more likely to attend college, less likely to be abused, and more likely to grow up mentally and physically healthier. A child born to a single mother has close to a 40% chance of growing up in poverty while a child born to a married couple has less than 4% chance of growing up in poverty. Children of single mothers are 14 times more likely to suffer abuse and if the mother lives with a man who is not the father of the child, the chances of abuse increase to 33 times that of a married couple. Worse, the children of single parents are more likely to grow up and repeat the pattern, a pattern that is detrimental to children. Despite what the liberals have told us, children need fathers in their lives and in their homes.
If we look at the recent spate of mass shooters, they all grew up in single family homes. (Cho at Virginia Tech may have been the exception although he seemed to be missing guidance from either of his parents. They did not seem to have been aware of his problems which began in middle school.)
Our society could cure a lot of ills by not encouraging women to be single mothers. These women should put their children first and not become mothers if they aren’t in a stable, married, relationship. It’s simply not fair to children. From the National Review,
Harvard sociologist Robert Sampson has written that “Family structure is one of the strongest, if not the strongest, predictor of variations in urban violence across cities in the United States.”
His views are echoed by the eminent criminologists Michael Gottfredson and Travis Hirschi, who have written that “such family measures as the percentage of the population divorced, the percentage of households headed by women, and the percentage of unattached individuals in the community are among the most powerful predictors of crime rates.”
When will our society stop pretending that children raised by single mothers turn out ‘just as good’ as those raised by a married couple? They don’t. These children suffer every step of their lives and so does our society. Our jails are packed with men and women from homes without a father. We all pay the price, but these children pay the greatest price.
One more liberal social experiment, single mothers, that has harmed children. When will we stop supporting liberal social experiments that ALWAYS harm children? When will we put the needs of our most vulnerable, infants and children, ahead of the wants of adult women? Which is more important to our future as a society? The answers are obvious.
UPDATE: Much more on this subject in this excellent article by our friends over at Bearing Drift, The article includes these statistics,
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes
85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes
80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes
75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes
85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes
The article is worth a read.
Another good article on this subject at thefederalist.com, and one at TheBlaze.com .
Update: The Las Vegas shooter also grew up without a father at home because his father was in jail or running from the law for most of his life. More on the Stephen Paddock’s background here.
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Frank, I believe the problem is a breakdown of society values in general. Still not a single parent issue, otherwise, how could you explain Columbine? Both were two parent homes of wealthy parents who apparently did not stay connected to their kids. Why do people allow their kids to be influenced by the snotty kids on Nickelodean and Disney sitcoms? Why do kids under 18 have fancy smart phones and texting ability. I noticed that was a problem immediately and my daughter did not have that. I believed in nurturing my kid while allowing her to individuate. My daughter had a terrible time finding females like her at the state university. Most of the girls were slutty and the majority of the boys and girls smoked pot and drank a lot. My daughter didn’t fit in, but she refused to join them because, once again, she had to be true to herself. After the first semester, she formed great friendships with a group of nice boys instead and will be renting a house with these nice boys for the next school year. Two of these boys are from single mother homes. They turned out great. Their Moms did a great job with them. You need to look further than the superficial single-mother explanation. And by the way, why do the fathers drop out of the kids lives when they get divorced?
Comment by FrankUnderwoodSr
It sounds like you and your daughter have done very well. Your daughter
sounds very much like my own daughter, and you are probably just as
proud as I am. All things considered however, I hope you would agree that you and your
daughter have succeeded beyond the norm, and the normative case of
fatherless homes is not so good. Raising children, especially boys into
men, is certainly easier with both a mother and a father. Having both
does not guarantee success, and having only one does not guarantee
failure. Nevertheless, the odds for success are much better with
both. Congratulations on doing the hard work necessary to beat those
odds.
I am a single mother and and engineer. I divorced my loser, abusive husband when my daughter was one year old. I would like to chime in about all of this single mother bashing. The problem here is the TYPE of role model the single mother is. I was both mother and father. I taught my daughter how to sew, cook and restore an 1800s Victorian house. She learned about plumbing, plaster repair, wood refinishing, finish electrical work and construction. I taught her about successful habits and morals and character. We played chess, did puzzles, read and had limited television. At age 20, my daughter is now an engineering student who doesn’t do drugs, but drinks a little socially. She doesn’t wear make-up, dress provocatively or talk like a Kardashian. She knows herself and respects others. My lovely daughter is on her second engineering internship and has already been offered a job. They have her pegged as a leader, but being a working engineer would be even better if she so chooses. Her boyfriend is an engineering student and also a real nice kid. The problem here is not single mothers. Please qualify your criticisms accordingly.
It sounds like you and your daughter have done very well. Your daughter sounds very much like my own daughter, and you are probably just as proud as I am.
All things considered however, I hope you would agree that you and your daughter have succeeded beyond the norm, and the normative case of fatherless homes is not so good. Raising children, especially boys into men, is certainly easier with both a mother and a father. Having both does not guarantee success, and having only one does not guarantee failure. Nevertheless, the odds for success are much better with both. Congratulations on doing the hard work necessary to beat those odds.
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And what about the politics of these moms? Weren’t they fear and violence based, rather than being rooted in love and tolerance?
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Interesting article and comments. But what is left out of this discussion is the economic factor in marriage. The head of a household now has to bring in a lot of money to maintain even a small family living in a modest house or apartment. Usually both parents need to work to keep up and even though there are many ways to save money, the culture we live in is a hard one to fight when it comes to spending. Aside from the cost of food, rent or mortgage, there is the ridiculous expectations of cars, cell phones, cable TV, after school sports, vacations…and I could go on and on. Growing up in the past when TV was free to watch, there was no such thing as buying a cell phone and Ma Belle was $15.00 a month at worse, and people ate dinner at home every night and going out to a restaurant was saved for special occasions like birthdays and anniversaries. And most of all, we didn’t have credit cards which are the biggest change our culture has ever seen and is the reason so many people loose track of their spending. Also, families lived closer to each other and spent Sundays together etc. Now we live in a transient world where people don’t even know their neighbors. Remember, feminism started because men were leaving their wives for younger women and the women left behind who had to take care of the kids didn’t get equal pay to do that. That is why feminism started, and grew into a whole other thing when parents could not reconcile their differences. I truly believe that men and women want to stay in the same household and raise their children together, but it takes a lot of insight and strength to fight the consumerism of our culture in an economically unstable world.
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What the hell? Both Columbine shooters came from two parent households. Texas church shooter came from a two parent household. Virginia Tech shooter came from a two parent household. The article is more like a self-fulling prophecy.
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Shhhh. Don’t tell anybody. It’s worrying over global warming that does it!
No men on death row from intact families. Now that’s a load of bullshit. There are plenty of men on death row from intact families – or at least had intact families before being condemned. Scott Peterson comes immediately to mind.
Plenty? How do you know? How many of the 1000’s of shooters and victims in Chicago have had a dad to guide them? Open your eyes. Single motherhood…HERE DEFINED AS A DELIBERATE ACT TO HAVE A CHILD OUT OF WEDLOCK…is not heroic, it is one of the most selfish and destructive things a female human can do. It does NOT make them strong and independent, it makes them weak and self centered. A baby is not a doll to be shown around like a toy. A baby is a human that needs support, both financial and emotional, and guidance through the difficult teenage years where most kids either go bad or prepare for a productive and happy adulthood.
Amen.
Ever since the government became the daddy for so many families, there has been an increase in mass shootings, as pointed out in the article. But this is far from the only effect of fatherless homes. Additional consequences are a lack of discipline in the schools, lower grades and graduation rates, more fights in the schools, increasing drop-out rates, increasing illiteracy rates, increasing obesity, increasing teen pregnancies, more drug use, and many more negative consequences.
If you want to destroy America, remove fathers from the home, and convince society that it doesn’t matter because there is no difference between men and women.
G,
What you say has merit.
For now you can’t fix these issues overnight.
Immediate attention to the security of our students must be on the forefront of our
General A$$ embly.
I have a security issue with my local school system. They have expensed and installed a locked door and camera system that has you be buzzed into the schools. They have gotten soft and now two years *after* they were installed the schools are wide open.
I believe that security and accountability are today’s benchmark of a good legislation and or legislators on this issue of school shootings.
I agree. If they have such a system installed and operable, it is absurd that they aren’t using it. If someone such as this shooter gets inside, the administration would be (morally) responsible for any deaths – and possibly legally responsible.
“I’ll be able to make sure that when you walk down the street you’re not gonna be shot. Your child isn’t gonna be shot.” – Donald J. Trump 8/24/16
His DOJ is getting rid of MS23 and other illegal alien murderers. Sounds like a good start to me.
Sounds like racist bullcrap to me. Neither MS-13 nor illegal aliens are shooting up our schools.
And who is shooting up Chicago and Baltimore, half a brain?
Most shootings do not happen in schools.
There are two stronger correlations that you all are missing here. What do ALL the mass shootings have in common? 1. All shooters are male and 2. All the shooters used guns. 100%.
They have also used or intended to use bombs.
But not ALL of them – all the shooters used guns. But it is a good point. Try buy a boatload of ammonium nitrate and see who comes calling. Better regulation of substance used for mass violence makes it harder to plan and carry out mass violence.
We are not going to give up our constitutional rights… you are barking up a losing tree.
You do not have a constitutional right to unregulated gun ownership so I am not asking for you to give up any rights. You, however, believe that your right to own a gun overrides my right to live.
For the most part, yes we do. And unless you attack me or mine, MY right to self-defense will never run up against your right to live.
Keep going, you’re on the right track. Next you’re gonna say we need more gun laws.
Jeanine: Why are the various comment dates so different? Lots go back 2 years, others a few months, and still other current. I assume all are current but the dates are really strange. Computer glitch?
The Bullshit Elephant is dishing out bull cookies. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the Columbine shooters, were from stable, well-off, two-parent families. If you can’t make your point without lying, maybe you should shut up.
Anecdotes do not disprove averages.
Of course not, you foolish person. What it does prove is that the inflammatory title of this propaganda piece, “What Do ALL the Mass Shooters Have in Common? No Father in the Home,” is an outright lie.
I think it much more likely this has to do with the Trump-inspired white nationalist alt-right background of this particular shooter than anything else – doesn’t help that he had easy and open access to weapons designed and sold for their ability to kill many human beings very efficiently.
Proof?
Jordan Jereb — the leader of the white supremacist group Republic of Florida (ROF) — told the Anti-Defamation League Thursday suspected gunman Nikolas Cruz had participated in at least one training exercise of theirs near Tallahassee, carpooling with other members.
Oh really… since when do white supremacists call the anti-defamation league for casual conversation? Perhaps you should not believe unconfirmed things.
Eric, no surprise that a disaffected mentally ill young man would seek a sense of belonging among other disaffected troubled young men. The question is how to address that disaffection, and the source of their trouble. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn that the white supremacist group has a preponderance of young men without dads.
Not a lot different than the inner city gang affiliation problem.
Apparently not: http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/02/15/florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-member-white-nationalist-militia-tallahassee-leader-say/341751002/.
Update: it was a different Nicholas Cruz. However, Jerez is an absolute nut.
Thank you, Jeanine, for stating the first thing I noticed about this killer kid. I’m coming out this year with a book about the importance of fathers and i’m going to quote you if you don’t mind.
Cain and Able had a father in their home. And yet…..Cain killed Able.
You refuse to admit or talk about there being no moral compass in the home nor anywhere else. And the only moral compass was? Who exactly told you about marriage, man and wife, and the home? How does man know these things?
You people put a man in the White House who has broken his wedding vows 3 times, and if media reports are correct, is nothing but a common whore. Is “Teflon Don” a moral compass? Is congress a moral compass?
You try to find reason in your own mind about what is happening in your world, and why these things are. You deny the book that tells you all you need to know about why these things happen.
No moral compass.
You seem to be presenting a false dichotomy: I don’t see that there’s really any tension between your argument and this article. Yes, turning away from God and His Word and His Law is the fundamental problem, but how is that in any way inconsistent or at odds with pointing out, as this article does, that turning away from God’s laws for the family tremendously increases the odds of bad things like killing sprees happening? I don’t think God’s Law operates in a vacuum. In other words, I think it’s possible to sometimes examine the means by which neglecting God’s Law (e.g. various sinful choices causing lots of fatherless homes) leads to problems (e.g. those problems correlated with children raised without both biological parents.)
Out of twenty comments on guns, I hear one on mental health. Mental health is just too expensive and takes too much effort. It is easier to harp back to the gun cliche. Meanwhile, one certainy is that every one of these folks is mentally ill. We have got to get better in the field of psychology. Has any of us ever heard of someone who had been cured of mental illness. Therapists are okay if you need someone to pat your hand as you cry over some hiccup in you life large or grand or small but that and psychologists handing out pills is the depth of the profession. HELP!
How about this. A tax on every gun sold that will be matched by the government in funds to better understand mental disorders.
Marriage and Family has been under attack for well over 50 years. The attack is a well orchestrated. This attack is specifically advocated for by socialists who know that a strong, intact family is a natural antidote to their desire to control a free people through imposing government. Here are some but not all of the ways this attack has been manifest:
Religion: I met my wife at church and we had a common Christian upbringing in the church. Today, the same church institution that buttressed marriage and family is fragmented by the LGBT and supposed social justice agenda. The needs of the congregation are secondary to the needs of the world (whatever that is). The Bible is seldom used as a basis for sermons in such churches.
Work: The roles of men and women in the family have been blurred almost beyond recognition. Women used to be in the home bearing and raising the children while the man went out to work. Today’s woman is more often found outside the home as a professional. Husbands and wives live separate lives under some form of contract not a life partnership. It should be no surprise when “comfort” is found elsewhere than in the home.
Government: Taxes at all levels of government have gone up to pay for supposedly necessary societal services. It is almost impossible for a single income to sustain a family under such circumstances and discretionary income to afford luxuries requires a second or third income.
Society: Single parents are lauded over married partners. Take a look at most ads on TV. They almost always have one adult, usually a woman, pitching some product. If there is a man in the ad, he is treated is a stupid jerk. This type of ad is used so often that it is easy to see the insult.
Multiculturalism: The idea that there is a unique “e pluribus unum” has been trashed under the idea that diversity is our strength. This mean that all cultures are equally good – complete baloney.
Divorce: It used to be you stayed together for the sake of the children. Now it is about “self-actualization”. Family comes second to self – the exact opposite of what is essential to building a strong family.
Children: Become destabilized, often angry, and then put on psychotropic drugs. These mass shootings are filled with stories of the murdering kids being on such drugs to calm them down. Well, these drugs do have side effects some of which are the opposite of those intended. Add violent games to the psychotropic drugs and you get a caldron of violence brewing in a teenager going through puberty.
These are some of the problems that have led some kids to act out.
Not all mass shooters and murderers come from fatherless homes. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (Columbine), Elliot Rodger (UCSB), James Holmes (Aurora), Devin Patrick Kelly (Texas Church Shooter). Although Adam Lanza’s parents divorced in 09 his father remained active in his life and that guy showed signs of mental illness his whole life anyways. Hell, even Jeffery Dahmer was raised by a married mother and father in the home
This article puts alot of the blame on single mothers vs the deadbeat absent parent. It is twice as hard emotionally and financially on the single parent, but they are doing the best they can and they are not the ones abandoning their children. That is a choice the deadbeat makes. It takes a village. Rather than bash single mothers, hold deadbeats accountable to their responsibilities, and maybe volunteer at a program like Big Brothers/ Sisters program and make a positive inpact mentoring to a child rather than bash the single parent.
It’s in the hands of adult women by giving “free sex” that devalues sex and leads men to the “why buy the cow when you can have the milk free” prototype of men. It’s not just all the women’s fault. Women started his “equality” thing with “free sex” and didn’t realize when men happily accepted that ( and the consequences of that mainly falls to YOU) women make up 85%over the single parents in the USA
It’s not just fair to blame women. Irresponsible men are on the rise due to porn and free sex
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold came from two-parent families. You shouldn’t lie to try to make your misogynist point lady. Lots of women are single moms because of the abject failure of their fathers. They do the best they can. Some do a spectacular job.
I raised my three kids on my own. They all have well-paid jobs in IT. Two have university degrees, and the youngest, with an I.Q. of 150, was homeschooled. He taught himself programming and is now the lead programmer on a blockchain communications program while studying machine learning at Stanford (without having to take any queer studies courses). So, tell me, Jeanne, do you have any children? Have yours (if you have any) done any better with two parents than mine have? I really doubt it.
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Blame, blame, blame. You can fix the blame, or you can fix the problem. Y’all have chosen the former. A tiny baby is born to a single mother. Do you help her? No, you deny help to the tiny baby because you blame the mother for being “lazy, a bad mother, irresponsible,” — whatever. What happens to that mother, and her tiny baby, or any other, is of no concern to you. You care only about fixing the blame, and turning your backs.
God will treat you the way you treat that tiny baby and her mother. You will reap His mighty justice, and beg for mercy, the very mercy you yourselves do not share with those who need it.
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These issues are even more eloquently put by African-American men who grew up as fatherless boys. Men like Chris Gardner, and my boss, Roland Warren (fmr. President of the National Fatherhood Initiative), & even the President.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSN0419185720070614
Our culture needs to empower and support safe, healthy, loving 2 parent homes. I have a ton of respect for hard-working single moms & dads. Not for a moment does it diminish the value of the present parent to observe that kids typically do better when both parents are involved.
Amen Eve
“When will our society stop pretending that children raised by single
mothers turn out ‘just as good’ as those raised by a married couple?
They don’t.”
This statement is too general in nature to be as insulting as it is. If your husband dies, you still have kids to raise. You raise your children to know right from wrong, and make sure they understand that actions have consequences. They grow up to be active participants in a civilized society and know better than to babble on about something they DO NOT UNDERSTAND. Your arrogance is sickening.
Gee what a thoughtful addition of anger and stupidity.
Not stupidity. Not even angry, anymore. I’m willing to bet you’ve never raised two children (while caring for an aging mother) on your own who are both wonderful fantastic people who have never been in trouble in their life.
Much less on your own, NO welfare. Until you do, I think it’s ‘stupid” for you to comment on what you don/t understand either.
Stupid.Since it happened to me that is the majority of the nations experience.
Typical feminist woman,its all about MEEEE!
Father-absence (as Blankenhorn called it) or marriage-absence (as I call it) are consequences of failed social policy. Liberal policies do not work but always end up being enacted for lack of anything else to do because conservatives have no policy to deal with marriage-destroying problems of substance abuse, relationship problems, and the welfare state. Wringing our hands is useless — which is all we have done since failed welfare reforms were passed in 1996,
We now have policies that will reverse pressing trends of violence, poverty, taxes, and deficit spending. We need policies that give individuals the ability to clear substance abuse out of he family, welfare-to-marriage, replacing no-fault divorce with a better model, and marriage savers support groups.
Substance abuse is the leading driver of “father-absence”. All these school shooters and in most cases at least one of their parents were substance abusers. Mood altering chemicals make people think funny. Relationships fail, anger builds, and all hell breaks loose in chronic substance abuse scenarios. Here is our Missouri bill that will kick off a national trend of functional conservative social policy that works.
http://marriagepolicy.org/2015/02/substance-abuse-laws-how-to-reduce-gun-and-domestic-violence/
I don’t believe that the socialist left wants to build marriage and family. Strong marriages and families oppose the idea of the person dependent on the welfare state. Under obama, the various social services organizations were out selling dependency to people who “qualified” but hadn’t taken advantage of the freebies. Get them hooked and you have them for life.
Good read… http://m.ljworld.com/weblogs/first-bell/2012/nov/23/single-parents-also-produce-academically/?templates=mobile
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Correlation does not imply causation. If you don’t believe me feel free to wade through Judea Pearl’s respected technical report on “Causal inference in statistics: An Overview” a technical report produced at UCLA in 2009 and a much condensed version of her book “Causality” published the same year. As I don’t really expect anyone to take me up on the offer I will simply again state – correlation does not imply causation. http://ftp.cs.ucla.edu/pub/stat_ser/r350.pdf
Very true. Correlation does not mean causation. If it were, all children of single mothers would become mass shooters and we know that is not even close to the truth.
Nice guys finish last.
Women love jackasses.
Jackasses love women. Lots of women.
Because women love jackasses.
Daddy is an adjective.
As I read all the comments it seems that being abandoned by one’s parent is a key factor. Both mothers and fathers are important. Let’s not cast blame on women in particular as this post seems to do. Let us support single mothers through our churches (as mine has done for me) and community groups, recognizing that these children are vulnerable. If you know a single mom, chances are she’s not that way by choice. Give her a hug today. Say a prayer for those children who have been abandoned by their fathers or mothers. If you have the opportunity be a “father to the fatherless” consider yourself part of the solution.
And 100% of the people who have abortions are women. This is a stupid argument.
Yes, we would expect a Democrat to make that statement.
For a blog as prominent as this one, I am very disappointed you chose to publish this article. There is no doubt the breakdown of solid family values are at the root of many evils, but family comes in many forms. The generalizations and accusations made by the author are sloppy, ill-informed look more like someone spouting off rhetoric on their Facebook wall.
But I suppose you should at least be happy the outrage generated by this post is getting you more hits.
Great piece MS. Martin.
As an employer I heve wittnessed the minimal benifit to the earned income tax credit and I have witnessed it’s cause of divorce to have a enomours financial gain to be made by the single parent and it does not trickle down to the childeren.
Dads go home after work play catch , coach ball be a watchdog at you local school.
Is there really anything /something better to do ? Be a Father !
What they have in common is that they all took psych meds front the time they were little. Ritalin… all the mood changers etc.
When I went to school out in the country of VA, the parking lot of a high school was an arsenal with pick up trucks with gun racks holding hunting arms (and Confederate flags..) Can you imagine if you pulled up to a high school today and parked…. the tactical squad from every law enforcement agency in the US would be on the scene.
No one ever went to their truck to shoot up the school… But there was no ritalin to poison our little male brains…
Good point and it is another causitive factor.Look at robin williams,he battled depression all his life.His entire life.Then in past ten years he starts on meds and has crippling debt from over assessed alimony youve got suicide.
It is amazing how often such psychotropic drugs are part of the mass murder mix – and the psychologists who prescribe them know that statistically a certain percentage (less than 10% apparently) of individuals who take the drugs will become psychiatric problems. Add to that the violent video games that separate fantasy from reality and you have a real chance of mass murder. Of course, the entertainment industry has resisted the connection even though there are hundreds if not thousands of studies that connect violence in life to violence in video games and even violent movies.
“If we look at the recent spate of mass shooters, they all grew up in single family homes.”. What about the Aurora CO shooter? The Gabby Giffords shooter’s parents were also together. The Northern Illinois University shooter’s parents were together. Um, so while I appreciate the point, I don’t think it is so absolute.
How absolute does it have to be? Crazy shooters, for the most part, come from crazy origins. (Hence “the apple doesn’t far from the tree”) unbalanced parenting and home life result in unbalanced kid. Of course there are exceptions, so YMMV, but overwhelmingly absent father is kinda significant.
There are never absolutes in human affairs.
Most women do not choose to be single mothers. Fathers abandon the family. Why blame it on the woman?
I don’t blame women, I blame the stupid message the liberals have been preaching since the 1960’s that men are unnecessary in families. Men are put down throughout our society, they’re the silly boobs on television, they’re the dumb bunnies, they are superfluous and unnecessary in families. Men are jokes. That’s the message from our liberal society has given men and women for over 50 years and it’s wrong.
Yes. ^this. I’m surprised no one has mentioned the “Murphy Brown”-Dan Quayle incident from ’88. This has been a tenet of Republican conservatism for almost 30 years.
It is a constant theme on television and in advertising. It is visual with the man looking like a wimpish slob and the woman something near a playboy bunny. Even worse, men are left out of television and advertising, and a woman is shown with a child by her side. The subliminal message is men aren’t needed and are even a nuisance in the conduct of some business act. One other thing is that the movies portray women as being physically superior to men in combat situations. Ladies, a 200lb MMA guy will take any of you out in an instance – and that is one of the reasons that the FBI statics focus on a man’s capability of doing damage even though men and women commit violent crimes about equally.
No not so much. “Jared Lee Loughler had two parents. So did Elliot Rodger. Wade Michael Page was raised in a two-family house until his mother died at age 14; Vester Lee Flanagan was raised in a single FATHER household from age 8 and beyond. James Holmes was raised in a stable household–so much so that they tried to use his upbringing to spare him the death penalty.”-Stephen Spiker.
You have omitted the fact that none of them were raised from birth to adulthood with both of their biological parents. But hey, it was a nice try.
Step parents out, adopted parents out. So how bout violent abusive alcoholic fathers? Guess they are better than a good step dad or none at all. … and have you amended the article since Loughler had both?
Did you read my article? A child growing up with a stepfather/mom’s boyfriend in the home is 33 times more likely to be abused.
Ok, ONE or TWO men over the last 60+ years who became mass shooters grew up in a home with married parents who ignored him.
Show me the reports they were ignored? How about widows from soldiers, are their kids screwed as well?
Are you trying to find ways to promote single parents, even though all the evidence shows those children don’t do as well as children growing up in home with two married parents?
Yes, widows and their children have a harder time than women whose husbands don’t die. duh.
No, I’m pointing out that you are wrong. Can you show the statistics for children from married households?
She is not wrong.
McLanahan & Sandefur (1994). “Although death of a parent does put children at a disadvantage, children of widowed parents do the best of all categories of children of single parents. Children of widowed mothers are about half as likely to drop out of high school or have a teen birth as children of divorce or children born outside of marriage”
So yes, children of widowed parents (a rarity) are disadvantaged by not having the parent who died… they are not as disadvantaged as children born to single parents, however.
The mass murderer, Kip Kinkle, from Oregon came from a good family where the father and mother both worked as teachers in the public schools. Kip, however, was placed on psychotropic drugs because he was having trouble adjusting. He shot and killed his father and mother, booby trapped his house, and went to his school where he shot up a number of kids.
And this one or two cases would be what half of a third of 1% of all shooting cases?
Actually yes… research shows children raised by step parents and adopted parents are roughly on par with children raised by single parents.
I take it back, Loughner was raised by both parents who ignored him.
David, you and your little friend Spiker (who writes your posts) might want to check out this article on your favorite blog, http://bearingdrift.com/2014/07/22/liberal-mission-to-replace-fathers-is-still-failing/ Then return and argue that being the child of a single parent is just swell, and no child needs a father in his home.
David just pointed out what he thought was a factual shortcoming. Open debate is to be encouraged.
Steve always so quick to defend Jeanine. Above “real solutions ” also mentioned more shootings from kids of good households… crazy isn’t from single family homes, crazy is crazy.
David, I was defending your comment, not Jeanine’s. #kneejerk
Wow, this has really brought out the trolls.
Misread Steve, my apologies. Read it as my thoughts (Stephen’s post) had shortcomings. Again I apologize for the misread.
No worries!
Crazy is more likely to come from single parent homes.
Stephen didn’t write my post, i quoted him, that’s what those little things are before and after the statement. I wanted to make sure I had the information i was conveying completely accurate, unlike the hack that wrote this article. .
Anecdotes do not disprove the average… which is what Jeanine wrote about. ON AVERAGE, children from single parent homes commit more crimes, attain less education and are not as successful as children who are raised by their parents in an intact home.
The above article has been updated with a link to an excellent article on the subject over at Bearing Drift.
Thanks Jeanine for the timely and thoughtful reminder. Since
the famous Moynihan Report in 1965, written by the late Cabinet Secretary to
President Johnson, and U.S. Senator from New York, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, this
subject has been studied hundreds, if not thousands, of times, from a hundred different
perspectives. Each time, the results are pretty obvious.
There are consequences to public policies that try to
reengineer how individuals live. If you subsidize something, you get more of
it. If you ripe apart standards, then you will have no standards.
If the government had announced fifty years ago that they
had devised a complex overlay of programs that would insure the permanent institutionalization of poverty and the destruction of the American family – the citizens would have been up in arms. Yet, that is exactly what the government set in motion, regardless
of motive.
And it is not just the” governments” fault. Politicians found power in giving away free
stuff; Churches who should have known better, were seduced by Federal grants;
food suppliers by food stamps; investors and builders by rental subsidies and
easy money, educational communities by easy grants and program funding, medical
practitioners by unlimited subsidies – all of which only insured that those receiving
it and providing it wanted more, never less.
The unending war on males and male behavior, the encouragement of fatherless families, and the pretense that single motherhood is noble and normal, guarantees a certain level of chaos and violence that shocks us, and that can never be eliminated, guns or no guns.
Back to these shootings, which, thank God, are still very
rare, (of course this is no comfort to the victims or their families). The vast
majority come out of homes that are obviously dysfunctional and the vast majority
– actually all that I know of – have also been on powerful, behavior altering
drugs. Also, up to and including Columbine, every shooter(s) was involved with
the Occult, a fact that is no longer reported on, or at least in the mainstream
media.
I wish I could highlight your entire comment. It’s that good. Why did women ever buy the notion that single motherhood is ‘noble and normal’? Why did so many women believe that they didn’t need a man to help them raise a child when everyone knows child rearing is the hardest job in the world? Feminism lied to women and they have suffered for it, right along with their children.
I don’t think it’s feminism. My husband left me and my two daughters for his college girlfriend. The women I know who are single mothers are not single mothers by choice. What can we do to ensure that fathers do not abandon their children?
What about all the women who have children without ever having been married? They are single mothers by choice.
To get men to take responsibility for their children we must stop telling men that they aren’t necessary, or even wanted, in forming a family. That has been the message since the late 1960’s. “A Woman needs a Man like a Fish needs a bicycle”, that’s what feminists told women and unfortunately women and men believe that. Women could do it all, no men are necessary. As long as men are taught that, they will continue to not accept responsibility. We must stop the war on men, stop telling them no one wants or needs them.
I tried to let him know he was wanted. I was a good wife and mom.
I’m sure you were. It’s not you, it’s the crappy messages men have gotten from liberals and feminists for 50+ years.
It’s men feeling entitled to be fathers without taking responsibility. And by the way, I became a feminist because of my experience.
Me too! I am 27 and all I can say is this
The day the price for a whore drops below the price for a bride, men will choose the whore. It’s consumer logic.
The whore is easycome easy go, and dosent bleed once a month. Plus he’s got a whole surplus of them now so why commit? It’s only logical
CLOSE. YOUR. LEGS
What a truly sad statement. You turn everything into economics and ignore decency, honesty, loyalty, integrity and family. Being married to someone who thinks this way eventually becomes a form of torture.
Varsana, a whore has always been cheaper than a bride. Do you know how much men spend on women they date, let alone a wife? A whore is much cheaper. The hole in your theory is that men don’t want to have children with whores. That’s why quality men don’t choose them. Your hatred of men is sexist. It sounds like you have chosen the wrong men, your entire life. Biologically, men and women want to spread their DNA. They want to make “copies” of themselves. That’s our whole purpose. Some people don’t want to, and they save a lot of money and travel. Good for them. However, it is human nature to spread our genes. It makes us happy. The male role is to choose a woman that would make a good mother. It is the female role to choose a man that would make a good father. It takes two. Two people making decisions. Guess what? Guys don’t want whores as the mother of their children. Your theory is seriously flawed.
I have news for you, men ARE entitled to be fathers. It’s our right. And both genders have responsibilities, including not trying to push the other parent out of the kids lives. Oh, and actually staying together in the first place, that is a joint responsibility.
No man is entitled to be a father without the permission of the mother, whose body is the child’s first home. Where is it written that you “have a right”? There is a special relationship between mother and child. It’s one a man can never have. The best you can do is make yourself helpful in raising the child. If you want to have an influence on the development of the child’s character, get off your fucking high horse, drop your sense of juvenile entitlement, and assist the mother who is the primary caregiver. If you have a “right” to have a child, I suggest you save some money and rent a womb. I hear that science is working on an artificial womb for trans-identified males who want the “the whole ‘woman’ experience.” That way, you can have everything you want: you can go fuck yourself and get more out of it than just white goo in your hand.
Yes men are entitled to that… if the child is half biologically his, a man has every right to be a father. Women do no own their children and children have the right to their fathers just as their fathers have the right to them.
I suppose you agree with the judges in the US who give a rapist “his right” to a child resulting from his crime against the mother. Women like you (“silly women laden with diverse lusts”) who always speak for men’s rights while ignoring the evil they do to women and blaming women for the evil done to them, could never be feminists. You are too weak to stand on your own in the world, so you suck up to men (all men, any men) in the hopes that one will offer to protect you.
If there is a rape conviction, and the judge came to that conclusion, he or she should be removed from the bench.
Its not the judge, its way the legislation was written and how it is interpreted. And yes, it has happened. Unintended consequences.
Well said. 90% of all crimes are committed by men. Murder of women rape of women etc. Also 80% of single parents in the usa are women. 35% of women are battered during pregnancy. 75% of si gle moms are all employed and 80% started out in committed relationships. Now what? Sexist woman. Don’t worry men wont like you more if you lick their ass hole. It makes them respect you less. Stand up for what you believe in and the vulnerable and i can assure you that the “majority of men aren’t the ones who are mk? Good
Ahhh the Golden Uterus. You’re one of THOSE bigots who thinks that your gender gives you some sort of rights that the rest of us don’t have.
You are everything that’s wrong with society. The first cause of every problem. Bigotry starts with “I’m better than you”. Prejudice starts with “I knew a XXX once so you must be like them”.
No better than 1800s slave owners or the KKK.
Start by learning the difference between “sex” and “gender.”
The Dictionary has sex being a synonym for gender.
Hmm i0% OF si gle parents in the usa are MOTHERS. That’s 22 million children.
I thought it was higher and still growing. In the black ghetto community, virtually every household is run by a single mother. In other words, 100% of the women raising children are doing so without a stable male presence in the house. This was not the case a half century ago so you have to ask yourself what has caused this situation. My belief is it goes straight to the socialist welfare state that encourages anti-social behavior in the black and many poor communities who see the freebies as a benefit rather than a vicious cost.
The trans activists have lobbied hard to get that change instituted. Sex is a biological fact. Gender is how you feel (masculine, feminine, a little bit of both).
http://aberrosexualism.blogspot.ca/2014/03/normal-0-21-false-false-false-en-us-x.html
THIS. So this. Women complain about men disappearing after divorce and some men do that with out any prompting. Many men, though, are driven away by their ex-wives who cannot separate their hurt at being left (or their general anger at their ex if they are the leaver) from their interactions as a co-parent. These women drive men out of their children’s lives and frequently turn those children against their fathers to boot.
Women also disappear – some just walkout of the home. Have seen this a couple of times and loss of mom is often more devastating to the kids because she is the ever present fixture of the home.
Too true.
It is called “we” not “me and thee”.
Every rule has exceptions. I know MANY good kids raised by single moms. But those moms had to work 5 times as hard as other moms to make it happen. If you’ve done it, you deserve all kinds of praise, Sonja. You’ve succeeded against the odds, and done all of us (not just your own kids) a huge favor. Thanks for being who you are.
Thanks for giving women due
The question is: Why should single mothers have to work five times as hard to raise our child? And, even though, in spite of this handicap, so many do a great job, do we still as a group find ourselves constantly vilified? We already know the answer.
This happened to both my sisiers. Both of them wer and are good wives, mothers and professionals. In both cases, the men just decided life owed them something new and fresh, one of them saying “I need to be me.” They had nice homes, jobs and families, and our culture told them it was ok to walk out and “find themselves” and nobody would say a word of condemnation.
The day the price for a whore drops below the price for a bride, men will choose the whore. It’s consumer logic.
The whore is easycome easy go, and dosent bleed once a month. Plus he’s got a whole surplus of them now so why commit? It’s only logical
CLOSE. YOUR. LEGS
No fault divorce is anything cause of fatherlessness.
Bullshit, Amy. That’s not even a logical statement.
Diane women like you are the reason i’m glad i’m bi i don’t have to date women like you or date women at all more and more men are going their own way and saying screw marriage and not having a thing to do with women global birth rates are dropping like flies eventully the global population will peak and climb no further and quickly drop like a rock cause more women don’t want kids and more men are choosing not to have kids and avoiding women like the plaque also women are quickly becoming outdated men will have no use for them with artificial wombs on the horizon and incredibly realistic sex dolls that’ll have artificial intelligence that can have conversations with men and can eventually have artificial wombs women will become useless to majority of men hell why have a woman that’ll just divorce you when something better comes along or divorce you just to get child support when men have better options .If women want decent men then quit treating guys like useless disposable walking atm machines and stop being bitches to nice guys and stop dating asshole bad boys who don’t and never will care for you all they want is sex and will most likely abuse you then women like you will think all men are the same and we are not you just choose shitty men then call all men animals or pigs or perverts.Women like you who constantly blame men and hate us so much are the reason more and more men hate women my hatred for women is getting stronger year after year call me a mysogynist i really don’t care that word doesn’t affect me in the slightest my hatred towards humanity as a whole is getting stronger day by day my fascination with doomsday is increasing i love the idea of nuclear war or zombie apocalypses even though zombies are pure bull oh and alien invasions asteroids impacting comets striking the surface climate change all fascinate me i guess i’m getting more evil by the day hell games like plaque inc where you try to kill off the human population really amuse me don’t worry i am not a serial killer in the making i don’t give enough shits about humans to want to kill any others can do that and the collapse of society is quickly approching more and more strain placed on the government to provide for women and immigrants with aid more and more potential government shutdowns global birth rates dropping like flies eventually the global population will crumble like a house of cards.I’m looking forward to the collapse i know how to survive in the wild.I’ve gone full mgtow monk most men who are mgtow still have sex they just pump and dump i don’t have any interaction no sex nothing with women if i do have to talk with women it’s very brief in public where there are witnesses preferably cameras with microphones so there can be no false accusations i have no interest in having sex with women i might as well be gay hell thank goodness for femguys/cross dressers.I hope more and more men globally avoid women at all cost if they want us out of the picture then that is exactly what they’ll get women can all be lesbians for all i care the human race is slowly dying so what do i care more men need to stop donating sperm too make life as difficult as possible we are unwanted so why should we care who suffers hell i hope the big reset button will be pushed soon and all humans are wiped from the surface for good.Don’t get me wrong i don’t hate people individually i’ll talk with people who are not complete assholes but even that amount of tolerance for individual people is fading quickly.I’m getting used to anti social life style why talk with people in real life when i can talk with people online preferable with like minded individuals like myself.To all nice guys out there just quit being nice if women want assholes then that is what they’ll get all being nice does is get your soul crushed over and over to the point of it’s total annihilation i know i no longer have a soul looking forward to oblivion complete emptiness when my turn to die comes.It was nice to vent off some built up rage.Diane feel free to reply with whatever man hating bs you have in your arsenal because it’ll have no affect on me the years of bad relationships and emotional abuse from women have made me completely numb to insults if it wasn’t for my rage and building hatred for women and the human race as a whole i’d swear i was dead probably the only thing keeping me from slitting my throat.
“…artificial wombs on the horizon and incredibly realistic sex dolls that’ll have artificial intelligence that can have conversations with men and can eventually have artificial wombs women will become useless to majority of men.” Yes, artificiality is one reason that most women are not getting too upset (except maybe for Amy) that men are “going their own way.” Women are tired of what passes for “normal male sexuality” these days. Your thankful reference to “femguys/cross dressers” reveals that male sexual arousal is fetishistic. Men, it would seem, don’t need actual women, just reasonable facsimiles. Like most men, gay trans-identified males are all about fetish. (The trannies who fancy themselves lesbians are another lads’ tale.)
Real life has been difficult for most women under Patriarchy, but there’s real strength to be gained in facing adversity. The women I know never believed we could be so strong. Reading some of the comments some men are making here, no one should be surprised that women have lost interest. It’s not that we hate men; it’s that we’re not seeing many who are worth devoting attention to.
But there remains one question: Do you have access to firearms? You sound like a mass shooter looking for an excuse and a place to enact your hatred. I hope the admin here is taking note of your IP address.
I clearly stated i’m not a serial killer i don’t give two shits about you humans to kill any so what because i hate women and humans as a whole oh i must be a mass shooter right they can have my ip all they want i’m not going to do shit to anyone except myself i’m a pascifist i don’t harm anyone i clearly stated that in my last reply.I don’t have access to firearms only a knife to use on myself when i eventually feel life isn’t worth it anymore.Also there is no patriarchy women have every right a man does they have had those rights for a long time if anything men hardly have any rights anymore we don’t have male spaces they are always invaded by women women have more rights in family court and they get lesser sentences to crimes then men do they get way to much special treatment don’t have to do as many test to get into the military or army navy what have you and can easily accuse a man of rape any time a woman feels like it There is no real patriarchy in western countries plenty of women in power they just haven’t become president yet and once they do men will be far worse off especially if that said candidate is a typical feminazi who hates men.Plenty of men haven’t found any women worth dating or marrying it’s not worth it for anyone
Just another way of devaluing the seriousness of marriage.
AmyH, you need to study critical thinking before making an irrational statement like that.
There is nothing irrational about that statement.
As we say in Philosophy, Amy, “prove it.” Prove that no-fault divorce is a *cause* of fatherlessness. Correlation is not causation. It could be argued that no-fault divorce has led to more fathers staying involved with their children because the parents didn’t have to prove that one or the other parent is guilty. In the bad old days, the “guilty” parent usually lost out in any custody agreement. I live in Quebec, where very few people get married. Children are encouraged to maintain their relationships with both their parents. But you have your idée fixe, and I’m sure logic will not make a dent in your certainty.
In “the bad old days” people stayed married and children grew up in intact homes.
I am sure they were as good as possible. My problem is with the professional comment. Trying to be a wife and mother and a professional at the same time can cause a conflict of interest that is often the cause of problems in a marriage. There are only so many hours in a day and if both the husband and wife come home bone tired, there isn’t much time or inclination for intimacy. Add to that the demands of children and the recipe for trouble in a marriage is there.
Why not blame the Economy, which has developed to the point where a family needs two incomes to provide decently for the children? You’re stuck in the 1950s.
Actually, I blame the growth of government – and not just at the federal level. There are many unfunded mandates which are hidden taxes passed on to states, regions and localities. In addition, we have outsourced some of our most productive and employment risk industries – North Carolina was once the furniture capitol of America.
In the 1950s, there was a minimal welfare state and, therefore, less intrusive government and lower taxes. A single income could buy a house, car, and some reasonable luxuries. Now the second income pays the cost of government and the other income supports the family. It is a travesty that welfare can often provide a better lifestyle than work can.
So, in a sense, I agree with you. However, it appears that your and my solutions would differ greatly. I would substantially reduce the welfare state and provide more substantive support for marriage and family. I would certainly increase support for stay at home moms and larger families. What we have now is the importation of poorly educated people who often are so ill prepared to work that they end up on the USA welfare system to the tune of $135B per year.
Sad to hear that was done to your sisters. It’s something that many of us experience. But to hear most conservatives tell it, we’re all women who are out to do good men wrong.
Sophie you hit the nail on the head when you stated you let your son know he was wanted. This is so important.
Every child,poor or rich,from a single parent household or living with a mother and father, all they want to know is that they are wanted and loved.
When it comes to young girls it is important to have a strong male figure in the house. Young girls without a father or strong male figure will make wrong and destructive decisions in their life when it comes to relationships.
I think you are looking at this way too theoretically. How many people so you really know that choose to have a baby out of wedlock because of feminism? I know zero. Yet I know personally dozens of families where the father has left. I know many where the father has not continued to support his children after doing so.
And I know more families that were abandoned by a cheating mother. It cuts both ways.
FREE SEX
Why should he? He can just pull out some porn or the the 22 yr old waitress
Porn is addictive and you can go to jail for viewing child porn on the internet. That 22 year old waitress could very well be promiscuous and have an STD. There is no such thing as free sex. It all carries risk.
How did regular adult porn turn into child porn?
Warmac has child porn on his brain.
And you have violence on the brain.
The internet provided easy access.
Freudian slip.
I have a niece in New York. She and her girlfriends were contemplating pregnancy because the state would give them their own apartment – and they would be independent of their parents. There was actually a story in one of the newspapers about pregnancy clubs for young women. They would get pregnant without marriage to take advantage of the benefits.
I think you need to look at ststistyics sexist bigot. Childcare costs money and the census bureau states that over 75% of single mothers WORK
I am not disagreeing with you, I am simply providing additional data and rationale. You are so emotional that you think any post that you believe is in opposition to your ideas, regardless of whether they are, is sexist and bigoted. I suggest a good look in the mirror.
I think you need to learn the definition of “sexist bigot,”
Never going to happen.
Varsana, if 75% of single mothers work, that means that 75% of single mothers are not being mothers. That is the issue that creates dysfunctional children that may end up shooting up a school. No father, sees mom at night for a couple of hours. You cant be good at a job and a good parent at the same time. It’s impossible. It’s neglect.
Baum, you’re great at calling names, but short on substance. The real issue is whether or not single mothers take more than they give. IOW, I’m supporting single mothers through my taxes because they take more than they provide. That means that I’m working to support somebody else. That would make me a slave. And you have the nerve to call us bigots just for getting uppity.
Your a sexist bigot
Warmac is a sexist and a bigot. Here is the worst part. He spreads ideas that are literally and factually false about Muslims and those same ideas were expressed on social media as to why he should kill Muslims. Warmac and his spreading of bigotry is why HE and others that refuse to stand up to him and his ilk in the Republican party are a danger to my family. I am a conservative and was a Republican, but I will vote for democrats in every case to stop the Warmacian part of the Republican party. They need to be expelled. This year you will see a high energy tidal wave of people of all polictial beliefs against Republicans who have abandoned their country in favor of their tribe and who do way too little to deal with the Warmacian scourge.
Every few weeks Warmac, another Muslim in the US is targeted and attacked or killed by someone who thinks the same false things that you do. This is blood on your hands for refusing to learn the truth. You can’t just say they are “crazy” if you are prepared to talk about the “Muslim” problem when a just as crazy Muslim does something.
I am itching for November. #nevertrump
There are about 1400 total anti- religious attacks in the USA per year. 56% of the anti-religious attacks are committed against jews. In other words, there are about 2 per day against Jews. For muslims, it is about 16% or 224 such attacks per year. In other words less than 1 per day. For Christians/Catholics, it is about 8% or 112 such attacks per year. The rise in jewish attacks comes from the radical left and an increasing muslim population. I suggest you get your numbers straight before you post. 9By the way, the USA muslim population is about to equal the USA Jewish population. Not particularly good news for Jews.0
In London last year, there were about 460 acid attacks. This is a substantial increase in about 5 years – more than doubling previous totals. This increase is found in the muslim no-go zones and is so severe that delivery drivers who use mopeds are now refusing to deliver in those areas. And this doesn’t include knife, vehicle, gun, bomb and just plain simple assault.
Sweden is now the rape capitol of Western Europe. The police have admitted they can’t handle the problem in the muslim no-go zones so the Swedish authorities are contemplating use of their military. Turns out the muslim gangs are better armed with guns, bombs, hand grenades, etc than the police.
In France, the last statistic has the number of muslim no-go zones at somewhere between 750 and 1000 – and growing. Violence in and around Paris is constant and getting worse. France has now been in a martial law situation for nearly 3 years as a result.
Finally, after 9/11, one muslim was killed by a Texas nut case. If you remember 9/11, almost 3000 people were massacred by muslim terrorists. The fact that only one muslim was killed is really remarkable.
Itch away. Every time you post I will post with numbers that refute your accusations. If that is bigotry, then so be it.
Warmac9999, you must be doing something right – you got Baum and AMERICANMUSLIM pissed!
I was trying to be more reasonable with Baum, but it just doesn’t work when facts are overwhelmed by emotions. With AM, I simply keep stating the news in Western Europe and he or she can’t stand being confronted with facts.
Italy, by the way, just elected a very anti-muslim government. (The Nigerian muslim mob is now nationally infamous for the rape, murder, cannibalism, and dismemberment of a young Italian girl.)
You know a lot of women with poor mate selection skills.
Yes and we need to overturn laws that allow vindictive women from making the war on good men/fathers a stark reality.
Its true that if you give any group enough power that power will be abused.
And the kids held so high as the crown of justification for punishing “bad men” are the ones who pay the price for that reckless vindictiveness.
Honestly i think women involved in cases where they use the system to punish ex husbands should retroactively be charged with child abuse.
What about domesticly violent men? They angels??
Varsana, I have never heard anybody refer to a violent man as an angel. They’re assholes and society, rightfully, labels them that way. The problem is that women are no longer held responsible for sleeping with assholes. The shame is purely put on men, by feminists. Also, women will be supported by that man through the legal system and if she is not, she will be subsidized by the government. Women who sleep with “sexy bad boys” are not surprised when they take off. Women are responsible for their mistake and they should not be labeled heroes by the feminist movement. Those men that you speak of, are scum. There is no denying that. Women… stop sleeping with them.
And the men who actually abuse their wives and children should go to prison for life. Let them make licence plates to cover the cost of maintaining their families.
War on men? You are one crazy woman.
Amen
If a man does not want to commit himself to a relationship with a woman, they should take care not to get her pregnant.
And if a woman is unwilling to share the child she might create, she should have a relationship with a sperm bank. Both men and women are acting immorally these days. That does not negate the fact that children have the right to both of their biological parents.
Murphy Brown introduced to TV the idea of the successful single mother with child. At the time, there was considerable concern about the image presented. Now, that image is lauded as some type of good.
Hmmm. Statistics say that most single mothers started out in committed relationships. Sexist hate the single mom stigma much? Notice how men don’t stand up for women but there are plenty of hateful women hating women who feel SORRY for the 20% of single fathers in the world! Boo HOOOO sexist people like you are the reason there is so much injustice against women in the world cause I can guarantee you men wont fight that war for you but y’all seem so KEEN on feeling sorry for poor old MEN. LOL sad sad sad.
STATISTICS also say most women dont even get regular child support to pout FOOD in rheir kids bellies but POOR OLD DADDY’S RIGHTS!!! LOL
If single mothers are 3x more likely to live in poverty than single fathers, doesn’t that indicate that they need a man to have a healthy family? Don’t get me wrong, those single fathers are not doing a good job raising their kids even though they are not in poverty. I don’t understand why modern society doesn’t understand the value of family structure. A man and a woman bring different virtues to a child and children require time from their parents. One parent (man or woman), should provide resources. The other parent (man or woman), should provide care. The fact is that all of these mass shooters were raised by single mothers. That’s not a coincidence. Why can’t we look into the real societal problems that are causing massacre after massacre? It is not all men’s fault. I cant find a descent girl to save my life. All I ever wanted was to have a wife and kids. I know there are good ones out there but, I’m 30 years old and I cant find one. There are plenty that are willing to sleep with me but, they would not make good mothers.
Yeah men are such little babies who can’t think for themselves or take responsibility. Self-accountability is real tough. We need to baby them more.
It’s the other side of the coin. Liberals and feminist have told women they don’t need men. Both men and women believe it. Why would men stick around when they aren’t necessary or even wanted in a family?
I feel like you are assuming I drove my husband away by making him not feel wanted. That was not the case! I have even tried to ensure that he keeps in touch with my children even when they didn’t want to talk to him. Unfortunately the husband leaving is more the norm than the woman thinking she can do it alone. That’s just reality.
NO! I do not think you did anything to drive him away. Our society gives men permission to do that. It’s NOT you, it’s our society. Men are useless idiots in a family. That’s the message that men get. I have no doubt that you, and your children, would have a better life if your husband had lived up to his responsibilities. I am sorry that didn’t happen for you.
My point is children AND women do better when there are fathers in the home. You didn’t choose to be a single mom, but millions of women have chosen that path because they foolishly believed what the left told them, there was no benefit to children or women to have a father in the home. Now women, children, and our society suffers because they have believed that message. Women like you know better. Women like you know how hard it is to be a single mom.
The mothers of the shooters (at least the most recent and Adam Lanza) were single mothers like me–products of divorce. In both cases the story is that the father was no longer involved in the son’s like. The mothers of the shooters didn’t emulate Hollywood stars by having children out of wedlock. What kind of message does it send when our political leaders like Newt Gingrich, John McCain and Donald Trump all left their first wives for younger models?
Sends me the message that they aren’t very good leaders.
You couldn’t think of any man who ever left his wife for a younger women that isn’t a republican? Surely you aren’t claiming that only republican men do that?
The day the price for a whore drops below the price for a bride, men will choose the whore. It’s consumer logic.
The whore is easycome easy go, and dosent bleed once a month. Plus he’s got a whole surplus of them now so why commit? It’s only logical
CLOSE. YOUR. LEGS
Virtually the entire black community has bought into the notion that no father is needed in the home. And, in reality, the way the welfare system works it is economically beneficial for a man not to be in the home or married to the woman.
Statistics dont bear out your experience.
Stefan, you must be a very bitter, lonely man. I would not wish you on any woman or child.
I love everyone regardless of gender. Your animosity towards
males is obvious. You cannot hide it. It is what defines feminism in this day and age. society has caught on to
the imaginary gender war. Only feminist are fighting it.
men do not participate because we lose no matter.
Children come from the Godly unit. This unit has two parts
The male plays the provider and protector willing to fight
and even die for the more valuable female half and the children. Men are the least valuable half of the godly
unit. why? because the slaves are always worth less than
the masters. Men know better than fight a gender war
against females. Feminism has no opponents left but
the hatred within. society as a whole will watch feminism
cannibalize itself and it will be exposed as the hate group it is. Damage is done and Men are just waiting to rebuild
something better from the wreckage. If females really
wanted equality our National Cemeteries would be full
of The sacrificed Daughters of Men. You blame your experience for becoming a feminist. Why not take the blame yourself for what you have become. Not everything
is the fault of us mean, dirty low down men. I love you enough to pray for you. Feminism is a hate group and
even the females are starting to recognize this truth.
At least the smart ones recognize it. Love and respect to all without prejudice..
This is one of the reasons the #metoo movement is to be feared. There is no question that there are sexual abusers, particularly in the entertainment industry. But you now have feminist men haters jumping on board for a power trip. Witch hunts don’t end well, and the counter reaction is often more severe than the original complaint.
Oh, piss off with your self-serving bullshit. “Men are just waiting to rebuild
something better from the wreckage”…that they created. However, they fail at this, too. I give credit (not blame) for my feminism to men I’ve known, and friends have known.. You make the ridiculous statement that “Feminism is a hate group.” Feminism is an analytical lens through which women can see the situation they’ve been placed in by Patriarchy’s “protection racket.” There is no monolithic “feminism.” What you find are women who have experienced rape, incest, “domestic” violence, etc., getting together to find ways to improve our own lives rather than looking for a man to be a knight in shining armour, a “provider and protector willing to fight and even die for the more valuable female half and the children.” Yeah, we can take care of the fighting and dying ourselves, no problem. We’ll leave you to your anti-woman hate literature (pornography) and your boys’ club mentality. As for “what I’ve become,” I am very happy with the woman I’ve become…strong, competent, successful at raising my children on my own, and, above all, free. No man could possibly offer me anywhere near the quality of the life I’ve made for myself. As for the “mean, dirty low down men” who blighted my life and my children’s lives, they should not be feeling sorry for themselves; they should be thanking their god that they’re still drawing breath…because they weren’t worth the loss of my freedom.
My gosh, the anger! You seem to validate his every accusation. The fallacy of feminism, namely that the women must confront the evil Patriarchy to restore fairness and equality for themselves, is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature. There is no man-made Patriarchy. See Jordan Peterson’s story of the lobster, or better yet, read his entire book. Women have a lot of problems, as do men, but none of them can be solved by attacking what you call the Patriarchy.
You would be angry, too, if you had to follow the rules of a male-dominated system made your life difficult at every turn. For what many women have been through, anger is an appropriate response. Instead of chiding women about their anger, why not lean on your “bro”s to act like normal human beings? Jordan Peterson is revealing himself to be a nutcase, suggesting that women should not be allowed to wear makeup at work (and who would enforce such a rule?) because red lips (lipstick) are a sign of sexual arousal, which presu. This man is trying to push society back to the dark ages, and his multitudes of male followers are shouting, “Yes, Jordan. You speak for us. Our messiah has arrived to save us from those awful feminists!” Women’s anger is righteous, and whether you like it or not, the Patriarchy is coming down. (Even Steve Bannon said so.) It will be a real liberation for both men and women.
So modest.
Men are lucky they are alive and drawing a breath according to you.
I was correct when I said you cannot hide your hatred for men.
I am praying for you. I only made a true statement about your feelings
towards men. Its obvious. You have attacked me without knowing who is in my boy’s/Men’s club.
Jesus heads up the congregation of spirits within my club.
He and I do love you.
Many men and sons of man are in those national cemeteries not drawing a breath because they payed the ultimate price so you could have the right to succeed and be as awesome as you are.
If a feminist proposal of reducing male to the 10 % of world population, and Killallmen hashtag on twitter, a hate speech by a renowned feminist, “I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp, with a high heel shoved in his mouth, like the apple in the mouth of a pig”, and the famous (infamous?) Scum manifesto are not a hate movement, then what is it?
Right, right, feminism is not monolithic movement, but you have to admit that a significant portion of the leading figures in the movement are blatant male-haters. Their idea of gender equality is as much insane as Nazi Germany’s notion of racial justice.
Another equally likely possibility is that it’s you who are a very bitter, lonely woman and project your bitterness onto him. Cheap shaming tactics does not validate your point.
They do !
I think you need to research the statistics
If your children don’t want to talk to their father, you likely need to think about why that is. Are you doing or saying things that make them think they have to choose sides? If so, you may want to a re-think how you are handling things. I know it is very hard to put aside hurt and anger at being hard done by, but in the end if you don’t, it is your children that will be damaged.
What a Handmaid you are! You are the glue of Patriarchy, tasked with encouraging women to accept responsibility for what “her” man does. Why not accept that the children don’t want to speak to their father for their own reasons. You offer your pseudo-compassion (“I know it is very hard to put aside hurt and anger at being hard done by”) and follow up with placing the responsibility for self-sacrifice on the mother (“but in the end if you don’t, it is your children that will be damaged”). Women like you are the reason men feel so entitled to get away with egregious behaviour.
Children usually have a natural love for both of their parents. USUALLY, if they won’t speak to one of their parents, it is because the other parent feels the need to cast their ex-partner as a villain and is forcing the children to choose who to love through guilt and emotional abuse… It’s called parental alienation syndrome.
And that “theory” has been thoroughly discredited.
No it has not.
Yes it has, it never received scientific or academic validation in the first place. The American Psychology Association rejects it, as does the American legal and judicial fraternity, it is not listed in the DSM-VII. The insidious thing about this bogus “theory” is that non-custodial fathers use it against mothers seeking to prevent access to the children because of the father’s neglect, abuse or molestation, then they are cast as the hysterical and vengeful woman without actual consideration there is merit to their claims. It would be advisable to do some research from reputable and verifiable sources before touting such a “theory” as credible.
See here: https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/family-law/visitation-rights/parental-alienation-syndrome.html . Per the chairman of the committee that declined to include PAS in the DSM, PAS is not in the DSM because it is not a diagnosis of an individual. Rather, it is the name of a dysfunctional relationship between a parent and his or her children. While the National Association of Women reject PAS, it is still an actual phenomena that actually removes children from the lives of their fathers (or mothers) who they need. Woman (and men) who involve their children in the adult details of their breakup and make accusations against their children’s other parent for which there exists no proof OUGHT to be cast as hysterical and vengeful and ought not be left the responsibility of the daily care of children. Such individuals (whatever their sex) are incapable of doing what is best for their children.
Well then, it’s up to the courts to decide if they are incapable and whose story is most credible based on the circumstances. If it’s a description of a relationship dynamic, then it hardly qualifies as a “syndrome” then does it? And again, it is unequivocally rejected by the medical and judicial fraternity. It’s just a convenient moniker to assign to a person to instantly delegitimise any statement they make.
No it is not… and you have yet to show it is. The name of the phenomena is parental alienation syndrome. That is its name in all the literature (including the APA’s). You are correct that it is up to a judge in any particular case to decide whose claims are backed by facts and whose are not.
Yes, keep clutching onto that debunked science that is rejected as “phenomena” in every courtroom
You are incorrect… and that is the kindest reading of your posts.
No I’m not, it is you who is clutching onto ideology that has no place in a court room or a psychologist’s consulting room.
Liberals, feminists and government policies.
Over 70% of divorces are initiated by the wife.
Due to men cheating
Better the whore than the wife right?
You dont have to get a divorce if the husband cheats. Think about you future mass shooter kid!
Due to men cheating? As if women never cheat on their husbands…
“One in 25 fathers may not be the biological parent of the child they believe to be theirs, according to a study published today.” (google ‘One in 25 fathers is not biological parent – study’).
If 4% of wives got pregnant by extramarital affairs, then how many of them would have cheated on their husband without having got pregnant? 40%? 80%?
Imagine what you would feel like, if you have about 4% chance of having other woman’s child in your womb, unknowingly, parenting them for decades (at least about 20 years) when your husband secretly manages to cheat on you.
Talk to states that promote taking the father out of the home.Dirty little secret of states is that they make money off of child support when arrears happen.Many judges set support too high and fathers default because of amounts being set above their income.If they are median middle class or poor you cannot keep up with the payments and until you can pay the amount in arrears you cannot get a new hearing to have the payments reduced.
So when arrears become”administrative”usually after 6 mos of non payment(or underpayment) the state starts taking 3-12% of the actual payments made.This goes to having “case managers” but ultimately becomes part of police and legal salaries for the state.I.e.judges who actually set the support amounts.
Family courts in this country arent broken,they are running an ongoing extortion and felonious theft criminal enterprise.
Where are fathers?
In jail for failure to pay child support (normally,three times their income),working three jobs to keep up for said payments or three,dead from suicide.
Stefan – pay your bills and take care of your kids. When you stop blaming others for your faults, you finally have a chance to progress
Ye olde feminist refrain.
The laws are going to change and i am going to be one of the key factors in why they do.
Hating men and being willfully ignorant will no longer shield you from being culpable in one of the most shameful and wantonly criminal periods in american history.A time when hateful women put themselves before everyone,including their own children,to sate their reckless and insane goal of having their insanity validated.
Hmm so why are 85% of single parents In the USA MOTHERS? 75% of them who work FULL TIME? Cause if this !!!
The day the price for a whore drops below the price for a bride, men will choose the whore. It’s consumer logic.
The whore is easycome easy go, and dosent bleed once a month. Plus he’s got a whole surplus of them now so why commit? It’s only logical
CLOSE. YOUR. LEGS
SD evidenced bigotry. For some reason, people like that think it’s ok to be sexist and bigoted against men.
It’s the slavery, societal bigotry, of the 21st century and needs to end.
Tsk, tsk, tsk, guys. It’s your turn to experience some slavery and societal bigotry..
Diane – that makes absolutely no sense. Men living now had no part in any slavery or societal bigotry. You’re just deflecting. Also, never mentioned when discussing that nasty patriarchy is that women didn’t have the same responsibilities that men had. And they STILL don’t!!! My draft number for the Vietnam War was 220. Did you even have to register for the draft? (crickets)
I didn’t have to register for the draft. I had friends who were drafted. Along with many who disagreed with that illegal, immoral war, I escaped to Canada, where I’ve lived since 1970. Over the years, I’ve watched as the US has become what appears to be a giant insane asylum. My country is not perfect, but it’s relatively peaceful and tolerant and friendly.
SD – shame on you. You are EVIL.
You have to help raise a child you create. Children are expensive. Don’t cry about it. We all do. I just raised my child alone for 18 years without 1 penny from the father. The reason? I was scared if I went after child support, he’d kill us. Was it easy to raise my child? No. It was devastatingly hard. I hate seeing men like you whining and bitching about taking responsibility like an adult. You’re disgusting.
Zumzum, why did you decide to breed with a man who would attempt to kill you?
It’s not always easy to tell. That’s why women should avoid men if they value their lives and the lives of their children. You’d hardly expect that this guy (wealthy family, McGill graduate, etc.) would kill his ex-wife with a crossbow. Fortunately, there were no children; but even if there had been, it would not have been a financial burden to him. Notice the light treatment the blogger gives the subject: “Clue: he did something very not-nice on Nov. 13, 1991.”
http://coolopolis.blogspot.ca/2008/01/quiz-whodat.html
ITS FREE SEX it DEVALUED SEX AND ULTIMATELY YOU! If a man can pay 5 instead of 10 why wouldn’t he? FOR EVERY SINGLE woman giving men “free sex” without commitment “marrage” the harder it will be for women to find a decent partner worth submitting to! Women giving sex without FULL commitment is making this problem!
But the pill shall set you free has been the mantra for almost 50 years. This is a very false promise because the pill may prevent pregnancy but it doesn’t prevent STDs and diseases up to an including cancer. A woman with a brain doesn’t run around and have sex with any available man – that is quite dangerous. Furthermore, the types of sex often become quite bizarre and the long term impact is often not recognized until the woman ends up in a cancer ward.
Good point. While some women make bad choices, we have an epidemic of irresponsible men. As a Christ-follower I believe we should step up our game on holding men accountable and providing mentoring when a young man has no strong and loving male leadership.
Nothing bigoted or prejudiced about that statement.
Switch men and women in your sentences. It takes two to make this immoral mess.
What about holding women accountable? It takes two to tango.
When you consider society has been screaming at men for half a century that they’re unnecessary, don’t be surprised that men have started taking them at their word.
I agree. It isn’t feminism. My son’s father left us and never paid child support. That was something he did because society permits men to be douchebag deadbeats.
Sophie, you cant ensure that every man will not abandon their children. There are dead beats out there, everywhere. If women don’t want to be single mothers, they need to choose better men. The reason people blame feminism is because it used to be shameful for a woman to raise a child on her own. She would be labeled as irresponsible or much worse. Nowadays, it is celebrated to be a single mother. They are labeled as heroes of the feminist movement. We have lost the social responsibility to make better choices. Also, the judicial system encourages single motherhood. My friend’s wife cheated on him, he wanted to stay and make it work but, she wanted out. He was kicked out of his house, has to pay her alimony, and child support (he doesn’t mind the child support). He had to give up his home, his money, and his children because she cheated on him. That is the cause of radical feminism. Feminism made sense when women did not have the same rights and opportunity as men. It doesn’t make sense, today.
I feel like you are blaming me for being a single mother. But I became one not by choice. Honestly I am just so hurt by your comments. I agree single motherhood is terrible and that it is not healthy for children. I am a Christian and a conservative. My husband was a Sunday school teacher. I thought we had a wonderful marriage. He left us.
@ Sophie – Jeanine is blaming society, she is not blaming you, or women such as you. This is a problem caused at the very top, when the elites (the politicians, the Hollywood moguls, the heads of religious denominations) abandon the values and traditions which have served humanity so well for thousands and thousands of years.
She specifically said “the wants of adult women outweigh the needs of children”. Adam Lanza and this latest shooter both were products of divorce and it seemed their fathers were not present in their lives. The mothers didn’t choose to have babies outside of wedlock. They did, however, give their children access to guns despite mental illness. The fathers were nowhere to be found.
Yes, I did say that about those women who CHOOSE to become single mothers. Hollywood stars have set that example, and so many other women who liberals have made heroes. Of course those elites can afford multiple nannies, maids, cooks, and whatever other help they need. That’s not the case for the majority of women who emulate them by choosing to have a child without being in a marriage. It’s a terrible message to send to women. It makes their lives and their children’s lives so much more difficult.
Psychotropic drugs and violent video games play a substantial part in these mass shootings.
For thousands and thousands of years women been seen as secondary to men, even as non-persons. Women (many of us, anyway) are awakening to the reality of ourselves, and our own perspectives. Men, with the support of their handmaids, are trying to maintain control of women and children, but it seems they’re just not up to the task.
Islam still does.
Not all men try to control women. You obviously have just met the wrong kind. I’m an old fogey who has been married for 44 years, but I’ve been my husband’s equal from Day 1.
My second husband was an Evangelical minister. I won’t even talk about his disgusting, perversions except to say that no child needs a father like that. And, by the way, he somehow got out of paying child support. Looking around, I’d say there is a shortage of decent men worthy of a woman sharing her life and the care of her children with. These days, a woman who marries with the idea of providing stability for her kids is still running a huge risk. More and more women are opting not to take that risk and instead to focus their energies on raising their children.
Society must change its attitudes to accommodate a changing reality. Mothers are people in our own right, and our children (and society) do not benefit from the social message directed at them that mothers need to depend upon men who who do not feel a corresponding need to be dependable. Those days are over. If you really cared about the outcomes for children of single mothers, you would look within yourselves to see that your judgmental attitudes contribute to the difficulties these children face.
I tried myself to tackle society and force it to change its attitude.
But societies grinder chewed me up and spit me out and left me with nothing but my faith and the product thereof.. I was forced to change
my own attitude and seek truth within myself. The spirit of my father
was the product of my faith. Not only was my father a decent man
he was my hero and chosen God. I am but a humble stonemason
living at the poverty level, but I understand what a loving, selfless, and caring man is. For God provided one to be an example for me to watch. Looking around, I see a lot of selfish adult male and female
human beings (BOTH GENDERS) who do not deserve to be called “MEN or WOMEN”.
These stupid selfish humans (BOTH GENDERS) are giving REAL
MEN and WOMEN a bad reputation. Selfish humans who believe
falsely they can change society to see things their way are in for a rude awakening.
My father showed me that there is a difference that is easy to see
between selfish adult humans and selfless MEN & WOMEN.
Humans are birthed then God creates MEN & WOMEN.
No one can hide what is in their hearts from the spirit of my
heavenly father. He is only judgmental of the words we speak.
We convict ourselves by the words of our mouth.
He just listens to the responses his son gets.
The only message his son is authorized to send
is love and respect to all without prejudice.
I do love and respect you.
your words will convict you and expose
you for who you really are in your heart.
We can only respect that you are who
you show yourself to be.
Well accomplished, strong, independent, a good mother and so modest about it all and quick to point out you did it all
in spite of the overwhelming oppression and systematic discrimination that Males have placed upon you.
Well done oh mighty one.
The patriarchy was no match for your awesomeness.
Wonder why the patriarchy has not sent
me my male privilege card yet?
Guess I will just just scream and cry
about it and blame the society as a whole.
Maybe they will change the whole system
just for me.
NO I WILL JUST TRUST MY FATHER WAS
CORRECT AND WOULD NEVER LIE TO ME.
I will just extract myself from the society and
speak truth and let the public judge the responses
I get back.
It isn’t a matter of women needing to “depend upon” men. It’s that children deserve to have two parents, and in most circumstances (but not all), it is doing them a disservice to raise them without their father in their lives. It’s a lack of parental influence that contributes to the difficulties that the children of single mothers face – not the opinions of people on a website. Even if a father is not in the home, he deserves to be in his children’s lives, and the children need his influence. Just as they need a mother in their lives, they also need a father.
There has been a concerted attempt to eliminate the distinction between the masculine and the feminine. Men are supposed to be more sensitive and women more assertive among other things. (This and other such ideas ought to remind everyone of the Mao suit where all semblance of sex distinction was eliminated in the great leap forward toward a pure socialist/communist society.)
With Islam, you have the opposite. Men are to be completely dominant and women completely submissive. Thus the distinction between men and women is taken to absurd and dangerous levels where a woman can be killed for displaying too much womanhood.
Both of these extremes are dangerous.
Nikolas had two parents. One died when he was 4. You can’t avoid those kind of things. Parents die.
For those mentioning names of shooters that had a father in the home, did you not understand the percentages that were listed. That should answer the question of the exception. But let’s throw in another variable. How many of the shooters came from the liberal and democratic influence?
David Jackson
As far as I can tell, all but Roof came from such an influence.
Why do men abandon their children with such regularity? This is true among all socioeconomic classes.
Why do women keep pushing men out of their children’s lives? This is also true if all socioeconomic classes.
If society stopped telling men they were expendible, you’d see more men taking their responsibilities seriously.
The War on Fathers has to stop.
If more men behaved responsibly, women would not be coming to the conclusion that men are expendable. Instead of behaving responsibly, you guys go off to commiserate with other men in your MRA groups, blaming women for your own inadequacies and claiming there is a “War on Fathers.” No woman has to accept you in her intimate space just because you claim a “right.” You can be a good father without forcing a woman to accept you in her close quarters.
Your bigotry and sexism are noted. Good to see that liberal hypocrisy and bigotry are alive and well.
And btw, I am a single dad of three. I was the victim of domestic violence by my girls mom and still had to fight the kind of sexism and bigotry you embody just to rescue my girls and protect my rights.
People like you disgust me. You are no different from racists who justify their bigotry by saying that white people are superior.
Oh, please. If you are a single father, you are a minority. You are not doing anything that women haven’t been doing throughout time. And people are more likely to sympathise with you, poor man. Being called a bigot doesn’t disturb me at all. Your bros-in-dresses call me that all the time. Not into impressing men, thank you very much.
I’m glad most people see you as the bigot and sexist you are. You belong on the trash heap of history along with the KKK and Jim Crow Laws.
Thankfully most people are fair minded and don’t try to use bigotry and prejudice against other people.
She thinks men want sympathy and pity. Or she thinks they should and are getting pity and sympathy. I love what her kind does for the feminist
hate group. I love you and everyone on earth too much to lie to you. Diane Piedmont is my favorite kind of feminist and I truly love her.
I respect how honest she is about her feelings towards men.
Thank you Diane I love you.
Sorry but you impressed me with your honesty.
I love and respect you Diane.
behave responsibly. Lets define that term.
“responsibility”
1.the state or fact of having a duty to deal with something or of having control over someone. synonyms: authority, control, power or leadership.
Feminist do not want men controlling them so you would not like this definition for the type of responsibility you want men to take.
“responsibility”
2.the state or fact of being accountable or to blame for something.
synonyms: blame, fault, guilt, culpability, liability
That sounds like the definition of responsibility feminist want men to accept for themselves. We are to blame for all the problems feminist
see in society.
Every time a feminist blames men they are making us more responsible people. I love them for this and for being honest
about the type of responsibility they are accepting and expecting us to accept.
Definition number 1. for feminist and definition 2. for men
I love and respect everyone without prejudice.
especially the honest feminist who do not lie
about their feelings towards men.
Does that restriction on a woman’s “close quarters” apply to husbands too, or just random strangers?
Excellent points without using the word society once. Hats off to you sir.
Until all people are conducting themselves in a civil manor, I hold
it a true statement that “a civilized society has not yet been created.”
The system of government is not at fault I will agree.
Corrupt selfish human beings administering
government are to blame.
The constitution is clear about taking
private property for public use.
Without do process it is criminal.
Share the wealth or share the poverty
Socialism has become the government instituted mandatory
civil religion. Tithes are not given freely but taken under threats
of incarceration. This is a Godless, lawless and uncivilized society.
Are you standing on a soap box as you type?
Broken or dysfunctional family situations in the US without doubt has a serious impact on many socioeconomic issues, but as a significant motivator to engage in a mass shooting, I’m not so convinced. I believe there may be far more readily apparent reasons right in front of our faces that families, community leaders and elected officials have consistently failed to address. Based on National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) statistics as of 2013, there were an estimated 10 million adults aged 18 or older in the U.S. with severe mental illness ( SMI). This represented approx. 4.2 percent of all U.S. adults. As of 2014 Mental Health and Substance Abuse (MHSA) spending accounted for 6.9 percent of the Nation’s $3.5 trillion health care bill. This is a smaller share than in 2003 (7.5 percent) or 1986 (9.7 percent) . In part, this decline in MHSA share of all-health spending may be influenced by the rapid growth in cost-increasing technology that is reflected in all-health spending but the trend line still clearly shows a smaller share of all-health expenditures attributable to MHSA, with a projected growth rate in MHSA spending that is slower than for all-health.
MHSA spending is expected to rise at a 6.4-percent average annual rate, slower than the projected average annual increase for all-health of 7.2 percent The trend has been decreased funding at the national level during the Obama years, and as a result of the accompanying economic stagnation, the impact on state mental health budgets has been even more severely impacted. The rapidly growing shift of managed care treatment under ObamaCare from inpatient hospitalization to less costly outpatient settings—both in the all-health and the MHSA sectors has spawned not only the growing issue of lack of continuity in the monitoring of MHSA patients but the alarming trend of patients who simply walk away from programs back into the general population and disappear from sight regarding continuing treatment.
If you look at many of the non ideological motivated perpetrators of mass shooting events in the US in recent history what jumps out at me is the number of MHSA patients who were identified post event by investigation of law enforcement but were either not receiving treatment or doing so under a very loosely monitored outpatient basis. In many of these cases legal access to procurement of firearms was not restricted in any manner and information regarding their current mental status was not even available during the registration process. Something here is very broken from my perspective.
No, being from a home with only a mother doesn’t turn people into killers, but it does often make them angry and have more mental health problems.
Let’s see what happens when they have two mothers.
Jeanine This topic hits home for me personally, but I must be stoic
and not complain. The solution to all of this is for the federal and state governments to acknowledge that family and church are exclusively
private institutions and the regulation of private rights is redundant
to the constitution. Just get out of our family and church life altogether.
Provide no incentives for the destruction of the families. I waive the
benefit of being regulated in my private life.
We will see the end of private money being taken for the public uses.
The Bible says so. Their will be shortages of so called free stuff.
Nothing is free.
I was taught not to steal. I waive all benefits because
the indigent, impoverished government has no place to obtain them
but to take from my neighbors for my benefits.
Democracy stinks of socialism and mob rule.
Socialism has become the government instituted publicly mandatory
civil religious cult.
Tithes are taken, not given freely.
Taken from exclusively private people and given
to those who’s sustenance comes exclusively from
public assistance.
Our most needy demographic has become our
poor broke government who is blamed for everything.
They will bear the brunt of the blame and have to
police their own.
cannibalize themselves and toss out what has no
value. (ALMOST ALL FED PROGRAMS) and some at the state level.
I for one will refuse to send tithes to a government
who’s first job is to protect my rights, but they have abandoned
that duty to run their own religion.
My government is not my GOD they have tossed off the chains
of the written law and become my uncivilized servants.
My GOD is screaming:
GET OUT OF MY PRIVATE FAMILY YOU MISERABLE LEACHES.
I love and respect everyone on earth without prejudice.
I pray for them all in the name of Jesus. A&men
Yes but look at the mhsa doctrine.Is it simply to hand out pills and hope kids participate or is there therapy involved as well?
Pharma companies have been at war with counselors and therapy psychiatrists for years and this could be part of the total picture of corporate intrusion completely shattering american life.
This is a great thread, and one that is much needed. Two things need to occur. First, conservatives need to come up with a campaign that says FATHERS MATTER. No society has ever survived without having a mechanism to ensure that men looked after their biologically related children. In patrilineal societies, the biological father was the guiding force. And in more primitive matrilineal societies where a woman could mate with whomever, her brothers, or more accurately, her half brothers (they came from the same mother, thus the term matrilineal) took part in raising the child. ONLY IN CONTEMPORARY WESTERN SOCIETIES have we come up with this absurd notion that fathers do not matter – that single women can do just as good a job as mother and father. Second, welfare policy needs to change. For starters, a single woman on government assistance with child will get plenty of food money for herself and for a child. But she will not get an apartment, which will allow her to breed more children. She must stay in her current residence with her mother. I can guarantee that once singe mothers bring their children into grandmother’s residence, attitudes will change.
the grandmothers adopt the children as their own. then they too qualify for the child-related benefits.
But if strangers adopt the children, they don’t qualify for aide.
Because poor couples are not eligible to adopt children – but a poor grandmother is.
Great article! The problem is also the fact that the U.S. has become an increasingly violent society. Over the years, progressive, left wing Hollywood kept pushing the envelope on producing violent movies, which eventually led to violent video games – and that’s why we’re “numb” to these mass shootings (in the words of Obama).
Perhaps a good father in these guys’ lives would help them learn how to deal with life’s ups and downs and understand that violence isn’t the answer in a civilized society.
The desensitized to violence argument isn’t logical (I’ve watched violent movies – father took me to one, played violent video games, no RL Killtaculars yet.) but you may be on to something though, this video should be a must watch about how the varying demographics process time. http://youtu.be/A3oIiH7BLmg
I have a young relative who until recently was studying a curriculum that she believed will qualify her to work in programs to alleviate poverty. During a generals conversation about the subject, I mentioned the Brookings Institute study which found — IIRC — that you have only a 2% chance of falling into poverty if you do 3 things — graduate from high school, get a full time job, and don’t have children until you’re 21.
I said something like, “Wouldn’t it be a good thing to put posters extolling these things in all schools, in the hallway, etc.?” Her response was to say the part about not having children early would be “insensitive” to many populations.
Very intelligent young woman, in her 20’s, graduated with a masters from two of the best schools in America.
And that’s where we are.
Isn’t that sad? We can’t say anything against single mothers because it may hurt the feelings of women. No one cares what their actions are doing to children. Again, the wants of women trump the needs of children.
Jeanine, many children & women are better off without abusive men. or addicted men. or convicted men. or incarcerated men. or even a man who works 60 hours/week. i know many women who could do one helluva job as single mothers. & they do.
True, Kelley. But by and large society is better off with more intact families. Our government policies should be designed, as much as possible, not to dis-incentivize that.
Unfortunately, most government policies actually incentivize single motherhood.
I don’t see any attempt to change the dynamic. There is always talk about getting entitlements under control but spending on entitlements is still about 70% of the federal budget. The socialist welfare state continues to prosper at the expense of social needs.
Some do and it’s a shame they have to. It’s certainly not ideal for women or children. The liberals sold women a bill of goods when they said women didn’t need men in their lives and children don’t need fathers. Lies, and women fell for them. Look at the results, everyone suffers.
This is lot happening because women decide they don’t need a man. It’s happening because men abandon their children with frightening regularity.
Yes, because our society has told me for decades that they’re useless and not necessary in a family.
Yep feminist troll.
what about women who abandon their children with the father while vilifying the man and all the friends take her side.
Do some men abandon their wives and children? Yes.
Are all single mothers abandoned? Not even close.
Are you arguing that children don’t need fathers in the home or that women shouldn’t make such terrible choices? Wouldn’t single women be better off with a husband to help share in the raising of the children?
Kelley. There is a simple solution and it is a rather blunt one, and whether we like it or not, it centers around the woman. (1) She should get to know the man really well before she sleeps with him. (2) If he is not a reliable man and she deems that he is not father material, then she should keep her knees together. I am not here to moralize, and, of course, marriage is ideal. But other societies have addressed this in their own way, Many years ago when I was with XVIII Airborne Corps I studied West African courting rituals, some of which were quite sensible and sophisticated. One custom which was prevalent in patrilineal societies was “The Pleasure of the Bush.”
In short, a male warrior could meet with a maiden in a bush and enjoy each other’s company but they were strictly prohibited from engaging in any baby making activity. That pleasure and privilege would only come when the maiden’s parents and the tribal elders deemed the young man worthy of marriage. It worked! Anything is preferable to the disastrous welfare system we have now.
Not the wants of women, usually it’s the wants of the men who want to live free and abandon their families.
It was not my actions that hurt my children. It was the actions of their father.
And we can’t say anything against violent or deadbeat dads because it might hurt the feelings of men. No one cares how men’s actions (addiction to pornography, cheating, violence toward the wife and kids, etc.) affect the woman and her children. Again, the whims of men trump the needs of women and their children. That really is sad.
And no one cares about the millions of bitter women who abuse the law to throw perfectly good fathers out of their children’s lives, including with false accusations based on the prejudice and bigotry you yourself espoused here.
Actually everyone cares about all these things. But the breakdown of the family started with the devaluation of men, saying men were unnecessary. And the family unit is what needs repair.
The biggest difference between today with it’s school shootings, and the past when they never occurred, is fatherless homes.
There are no bad men Diane only good men and selfish adult male human beings. You are blaming men for the actions of those who do not deserve the title. You contradict your own words by saying much
against violent or deadbeat dads, addicted to pornography, cheating, violence towards their own family. You can say anything you like because MEN and the sons of MEN died so you could have that right.
Men loved everyone enough to sacrifice themselves to protect the
rights of everyone without prejudice. I did not exclude feminist
when taking an oath to protect and defend the system of laws in this country. Men will continue to fight and die for the rights of others.
We expect nothing in return but disdain and hostility. Thanks goes
to people like you who never disappoint us.
You really believe this? Henry Kissinger was right when he said, ““Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” No man died to protect my rights (although I’m sure many of them believed this was the reason they were going to the slaughter). Wars are fought to make rich men (and the sons of rich men) richer. Men march off to war because that’s what’s considered to be “masculine” within Patriarchy.
Those who believe all military men are dumb stupid animals are idiots.
Our fathers and grandfathers did not fight WWII to get rich, or because of patriarchy. They answered the call of duty out of a sense of patriotism. You may need to look up that strange word “patriotism” since it’s almost a thing of the past, but it did once exist, and men were willing to die for it.
Not only that, but the military tends to be better skilled and educated than much of the civilian workforce. When not fighting, military folk are training and educating. You don’t have to be on a campus to get a degree from a college or university.
I did not want to be a single mother. No one I know wants to be a single mother. The truth is that usually it’s the man that abandons the family.
Many women choose to have children when they aren’t in a married relationship. Surely you’ve seen this, many stars do it and women who are rich and poor have been taught they don’t need men.
That is horrible. And we need to change that by calling it what it is and punishing it.
Sophie – please. No one here is berating you. You have my sympathies and I would make men such as your husband pay through the nose when they left their families to “be themselves”. But there is a YOOOGE difference between women such as you, who were married and abandoned, and women who START THEIR FAMILIES without a committed father. And I am seeing it more and more among the daughters of my conservative friends.
Seems a bit troll like now.
Statistics do not support that.
A tragedy that the truth must be suppressed for politically correct purposes.
Thank you, Captain Obvious. Now where’s your ideas to solve this problem?
We could begin by not praising and encouraging women to be single mothers! They’re admired and they shouldn’t be.
And that’s short-sighted because a lot of single mothers aren’t single by choice.
Anyway, that’s just words of praise and condemnation. Words accomplish nothing by themselves. You’re still on the clock.
The majority of single women are single by choice. Surely you have heard that birth control is widely available in the US as are abortions, unfortunately.
Words accomplish nothing? Back in the 50’s women were shamed if they had a baby ‘out of wedlock’. The words they heard had a powerful impact and they didn’t take getting pregnant without a husband casually. The pill wasn’t available then and yet there were very few single mothers. Now we have many different forms of birth control and 70% of Black children are born to single mothers. In the 50’s that figure was 20%. Now over 40% of white women have babies without a husband. In the 50’s it was 5%. What changed? Society’s message that having a baby as single mother is perfectly fine. Women have been taught that they don’t need men and children don’t need fathers. Who has suffered? Everyone. The single mothers, the fathers who don’t see or take responsibility for their children, and most of all the children.
Damn straight.
Very much on target
Exactly, Jeanine. Exactly.
Public shaming and the resulting ostracism could be an effective tool, but I’m not comfortable with that tactic anymore.
Better to let women and children continue to suffer? And our society pay for their continued suffering?
Yes, as long as they are suffering they are dependent and malleable and will continue to vote the right way for more bread and circuses. And it’s not society that pays, it’s the American taxpayer that pays.
Yes, now that would be called bullying and as you point out, politically incorrect
it is a choice. but it is the choice of the mother. If this woman is not motivated to give her child every advantage (if a father is indeed always an advantage), then i can’t see where we can do anything about it
Really? You can’t see how society could change the messages? Stop rewarding single mothers with more money, more food stamps, more housing, etc? We can stop praising single mothers and acting like they are some kind of heroes.
Nobody will vote against their own self-interest, the left will not reduce and is actively working to expand this.
Actually, tax policy could be changed to reward two parent families. I think it is Poland or Hungary where Sunday is now being made a day of rest and marriage is being treated as honorable and of interest to the state. Also, having children is being encouraged rather than importing them from muslim countries.
Excellent point. We need more shame in our society; it’s a powerful motivator for positive change. But in my lifetime, it has become a dirty word, sadly.
Buy many are single by choice whether they intended to be or did not intend to be. And with the welfare system, it pays not to be married but have a live in boy friend.
Exactly! Since we instituted welfare our society has encouraged single women to have children. We even PAY them to do it! What a terrible message we have sent women, have children without a father in the home and we’ll give you money, housing, food stamps, and free education programs. The more children you have, the more you will get. It’s so very harmful to women and to children.
And to our culture and civilization
How do you know they’re not single by choice? Proof or Not Real.
Bruce could obviously not answer the question above, and he certainly cannot hold himself to the standards that he imposes on everyone else, which is so quintessentially liberal.
good grief. i know widows who have done a great job. then i know women who have children with incarcerated men–they have made that choice. It is a choice Jeanine.
Exactly! the majority of single moms are single moms by choice.
And the consequences have been disastrous. It goes against human nature and it runs counter to the human experience of the past 100,000 years.
Based on what I see in real life experiences with people and not things written on the internet. No one actually encourages women to become single mothers and they don’t get special praise. There is just less of a stigma of being a single mother these days. You’ll probably say there should be a stigma again but realistically that won’t help single mothers. That will cause more division and isolation amongst people. Kind of like how the internet likes to say that single women who have high powered successful careers are all “I’m a strong independent women that boasts about not needing a man” But the women ive met over the years who are successful and single actually don’t have that mentality that the internet says they do
Story: Fireman rescues heavily pregnant woman and takes her to the hospital. She asks what he makes doing this and then ridicules him when he tells her the amount. She says she has three other children, makes more on welfare than he does, and has her baby daddy in a prison. When he gets out, he will get a welfare check. Essentially, she has gamed the system and ridicules those who are “too stupid” to do so. She ridiculed a working tax payer, by the way.
One of my best friends is adopted; he recently met his (on welfare) birth mother for the first time. During their meeting, she was bragging about how she’s gamed the system for 20+ years.
Get rid of welfare that rewards women for having babies out of wedlock. This scheme was set up to create dependency and kick the father out of the picture. It is the chikdren who pay and are hurt. Women have children to gain income. It pretty much solidifies poverty and dependency.
Before you lecture and insult me my husband and I tried very hard to help three little children with three different fathers from same mother. Spent money and time but the mother is only interested in getting more. She just had 4th baby out of wedlock with 4th man. She uses her children as pawns to get things. This is our welfare system and the children pay. Heartbreaking.
Do we just cut that system off on a specific day? Do we make exceptions for the people that truly need the help and aren’t out to game the system? If so, who makes that judgment call?
No, but we don’t have to invent the specific policy prescription to fix the problem in order to agree that there is a problem. Government policies that are destructive to traditional families are unwise. A public zeitgeist hostile to (or dismissive of) the role fathers play in raising stable, productive adults is harmful to society in the short and long term. We can talk ad infinitem about how to fix it.
Tell me, how did people survive these thousands of years before the government decided to fiddle with people’s lives and get in the middle of raising children? This started in the 70’s and it has been downhill and destructive ever since. Stop incentive zing women and men to be irresponsible. Make them more self reliant.
I think it should grandfather in over a couple of years and limit to one child for benefits. Just an idea. Could be more out there t hat would work better.
But if you make them more self-reliant then they become more free. No socialist government wants that.
Cut the system off immediately, dump them on charities.
Actually, that was the original idea. Charity benefited both the giver and receiver. Welfare only benefits the receiver.
Actually, we do exactly that. I think this was done in Wisconsin where the roles were purges of something like 75% of the people who were abusing the system.
never happen
100% agree! Children do best when raised in a stable home with a mother and father joined together (previously) by marriage. This is so by all standard criteria! That is a FACT and THE TRUTH.
Telling the TRUTH IS NOT mean-spirited or bad; but an act of integrity and honesty! And sadly,in these P.C. times – it’s an act of bravery.
Libs like to blather endlessly about a faux Republican “War on Women” but the reality is – the libs – through their Democrat principles and platforms – have been waging a “War on Men” or more specifically a “War on Fathers”! Dads matter!! Big time!
REAL WOMEN love men! Real women love fathers (both our own and our children’s) and we esteem fathers’ important role down through the ages. It’s only lately that this fundamental pillar of society has been turned on its head.
And here’s a dirty little secret the liberals DON’T want to get out — Big gov/sugar daddy gov is NO substitute for a strong, loving, committed, responsible FATHER in HIS child’s life!
Excellent article, and probing questions, Jeanine. When, indeed?
Give specific Democratic principles or platforms that validate your point. Proof Or Not Real.
@ Bruce – let us not engage in your usual obfuscation. If Connie cannot answer your question, I will do so. But first, do you agree with the basic arguments that we have presented here that fathers matter?
You started with an ad hominem shot at me.
I have no desire to talk to you.
Easy excuse. For someone who can dish it out, you sure cannot take it. You have no answers, so you take your thin-skinned marbles and go home. Be off with you, Troll. Go back to your friends at The Nation. Tell them you encountered intelligence life in this sector of the galaxy.
There you go again.
drug dealers? convicts? pimps? sexual offenders? drunks? wife batterers? why would one want these males as a husband, much less a father to a child?
And when that’s all you hateful liberals think men are, is it any wonder they don’t stick around?
Because they add to the size of the welfare income. No reason the father has to be anything other than a sperm donor or an occasional housemate.
no, I think not. Apparently is it not that important given that 13% of US Presidents were raised without a father being present for most of their lives while 8-23% (1960-2016) of children in the general population live that way. Doesn’t seem to make a difference.
Easy. The push for gay marriage. The statistic are pretty clear (see Spain after they introduced gay marriage). The institution of marriage is damaged by dilution – and that is pretty straightforward.
I would call it a war on marriage and family. For the convenience of personalizing the “war” it is called a war on women or on men when it is really a war on those core institutions that make for a free society of free individuals. If you can create dependence on the state and do so by blaming individuals, that is the perfect socialist scenario of enslavement. No socialist wants a strong and free marriage and family situation as such situations are opposed to dependence on the state. Until we recognize that these “wars” are by intent and by policy, we cannot solve them and will descend further and further into societal chaos.
Intellectual understanding noted. Love that you used the term REAL WOMEN.
I was raised by a grandmother named MARY and she always told me that
a REAL MAN was something more than just an adult male human being.
My father confirmed this by being the most selfless loving and Jesus like
father I ever knew. His heavenly spirit guides me now.
Feminist are not REAL WOMEN any more than the
selfish adult male human beings they blame the
problems of society on are REAL MEN.
I thank Jesus every day for hosting the spirits
of my father and grandmother who mothered
me without laying with a man. HA! HA!
I was from a broken home but my father
got custody only of me. (only begotten first born)
He provided his mother to mother me.
Self evident truth is that my faith
has reunited us in his kingdom!
spiritual
Blessings from heaven are yours.