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Where are the Shy Trump Supporters?

written by Jeanine Martin October 5, 2016

You’ve probably heard this, Trump isn’t doing well in the polls because many of his supporters are afraid, or too shy, or too embarrassed to admit they support Trump.  These shy, hidden, voters are going to come out strong for Trump on election day and pull him over the finish line. The polls are wrong. (Didn’t we say that in 2012?)

It’s difficult to believe that Trump supporters are shy. We saw no evidence of that during the primaries or at the convention.  They were the opposite of shy.  They were big, brash, and in your face. Are these really the type of people who are in the closet for Trump?  And won’t tell pollsters they are supporting Trump?

In September, before Kellyanne Conway became Trump’s campaign manager, she spoke of these hidden Trump supporters on the Today Show: 

“I think that the important point to note there is that when you have online polls as opposed to telephone polls, Mr. Trump tends to do better, and that’s because the online polls approximate the ballot box, where you’re issuing your vote privately,” Conway said. “We think there’s a big hidden Trump vote in this country.

However, the FinancialTimes.com is reporting there is no evidence of these hidden voters:

Pollsters have looked far and wide and deep into their methodology and they say they have struggled to unearth evidence of the shy Trump voter theory advocated among others by Kellyanne Conway, Mr Trump’s campaign manager.

Polls were accurate during the primaries and  Douglas Schwartz, director of the respected Quinnipiac University Poll, believes they still are:

On balance, polls had been accurate in the primaries in gauging support for Mr Trump, he said. “My thinking is if it didn’t show up in the primaries it’s not going to show up in the general,” Mr Schwartz said. “The Trump voters don’t seem shy. At the rallies they don’t seem afraid to say how they feel.”

Another variable is, as always, who turns out.  Will Hispanics go to the polls and what percentage will vote for Trump? Will uneducated white men turn out in large numbers for Trump?  Will Blacks  get to the polls and give Hillary over 90% as they did for Obama?

Looking at the RealClearPolitics.com average of all the polls Hillary is up by 3.8 %.  She has been up over Trump in the average since July.  It’s difficult to believe that there is a wide swath of Trump voters who haven’t come out of the closet, but anything is possible in politics.

More here and here.

 

 

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  • So they don’t need to reach for the big blue box of Powdermilk Biscuits? LOL

    • Sailblazer

      Sorry, you lost me.

      • It’s from a Garrison Keillor routine. On his show, “A Prairie Home Companion,” he used to have a segment about how one of the sponsors of the show was a product called “Powdermilk Biscuits.” He would talk at great length about shy persons and their challenges, and then go for the recommendation that shy people need to reach for the “big blue box of Powdermilk Biscuits.” The product is “made from whole wheat grown in the lush bottomlands of the Lake Wobegon River valley so you know that they are not only good for you but they are pure mostly. Heavens they are tasty and expeditious and they give shy persons the strength the strength to get up and do what needs to be done.”

        Personally, I suspect that several commenters here at TBE are the kind of shy persons who need Powdermilk Biscuits! 😉

        • Sailblazer

          Thanks.

        • Rocinante

          I could not have provided a better indictment of taxpayer-funded crapcasts.

  • mezurak

    Uneducated white men? Really? Wouldn’t they be more inclined to go after the free stuff everyone else including many educated GOP white men want? I want free stuff too. Maybe I’ll vote for Hillary.

    • Jeanine Martin

      According to the demographics on the polls, less educated white men are the biggest voting block for Trump.

      • Rocinante

        I trust poll demographics less than polls. Look at the people who go to the rallies, and by ‘less educated’ did you mean ‘less diploma’ed?’ What if you count ratings, certificates, and logs?

        It does not pay and actually costs to be a prominent Republican, conservative, and dare I say it? Yes I dares, Tea Party activist.

        We ain’t stupid, we ‘ain’t no ways tired’ and we’re voting FOR Trump and AGAINST Hillary.

        And afterwards we play Daleks with the party #nevers.

      • Warmac9999

        Apparently, the utterly uneducated inner cities aren’t counted in the polls. I always get a chuckle when some knucklehead like Megan Kelly cites the lack of education of Trump voters. Does she really think that years and decades of OJT amount to nothing?

        This idea that college equates to education is ignorant. After WW2, most of the engineers in shipyards were OJT hard knocks guys. Further, some of the degrees of the SJW are nothing more than indoctrination in how to be a victim and how to keep grievances alive that don’t amount to a hill of beans.

    • Lawrence Wood

      You know that kind of deplorable. The type that is up every morning at 6am to travel to a job site to work all day in the sun, rain or snow to collect a “non government benefit” paycheck to help feed and house their families every day of their lives without complain or whining. When you can’t win the political, economic or social policy argument there is always the fall back to class snobbery. Pitiful.

      • Reinhardt Reganbacker lll

        Why don’t you join me in my Brodie boycott union? The more you people comment, the stronger his voice becomes.

        Brodie words are not worth a cheap cup of coffee. His every thread is nothing but a job application to the establishment. A dagger in the back of the middle-class. An establishment bull horn.

  • RubyTwoThree

    Perhaps they don’t want to get beaten up? Lots of people have been hospitalized, and it isn’t the Trump supporters doing the attacks, but we don’t hear about that, now do we?

    • Jeanine Martin

      It’s always the left who misbehaves and commit crimes.

      • Sbn

        always? you’re not this naive, I hope.
        “always”, really?………..

        not saying or implying there aren’t instances but, again, always? sure you want to go there with an absolute?

        • Rocinante

          Nah, I’ll allow it, has to do with a retardation of maturity and general fuzzy thinking, look no farther than what passes for public discourse.

          • Sbn

            Lol, ok then. As long as you’ll allow it.

            Absolutes for all! No fussing when they don’t apply to your “chosen” though 😉

          • Rocinante

            I find that I must guide leftists in discussions, otherwise, they can’t keep up and start caterwauling.

          • Jeanine Martin

            Thanks alot.

          • Rocinante

            Was referring to the leftists you mentioned above,

        • Jeanine Martin

          When was the last time you heard of a mob attacking Hillary supporters? When have you seen Hillary signs vandalized and/or torn down?

      • RubyTwoThree

        Yes, odd since they are the ones that believe in the Utopia of Unicorn Farts and Fairy Dust.

    • old_redneck

      “Lots of people have been hospitalized?”

      Really? Of course you have links to reliable reports to prove your claim.

    • Rocinante

      Look no farther than the sign/sticker vandalism. We know who we are, we draw the arcs in the sand with our crooks, we know our memes, code words, and fellows. We are coming, we are voting, our name is Legion. See you at the ballot box.

      • RubyTwoThree

        Being hospitalized and out of work, or just generally having your life disrupted w/excruciating pain is a far cry from signs being vandalized. People are having the crap beat of them for wearing a Trump hat or T-shirt. Years ago my brand new car got keyed, first and last time I put a political sticker on my vehicle.

        The Legions had best turn out to over turn the sheer volume of fraud. Trillions of dollars are at stake, the Uniparty isn’t going down w/out crime and a fight.

        • Rocinante

          It starts with vandalism, Alinsky tactics, bullying, intimidation follow.

          • RubyTwoThree

            I think you are missing the point. People are being HOSPITALIZED.

          • Rocinante

            Oh I see that, I don’t wear my Trump hat where I patronize. Broken window crime theory works for signs. Imagine what would happen if/when protestors outnumber rally attendance. The veneer of civilization wears thin in some areas of the country.

            These same people will not be high-fiving on election eve and afterwards.

            I suggest all who are comfortable to take the necessary precautions.

          • RubyTwoThree

            Regardless of who wins there will be chaos. barry just released more for his Army, and deliberately holding back people that should be deporting, he is bringing in the votes. Too many are fed up and it will be interesting when the bough snaps and the tree falls.

          • Rocinante

            It won’t be enough, and their motivation will melt away — it will be an interesting night, and much crying the next day.

            But we will laugh.

  • old_redneck

    Dream on.

    • Jeanine Martin

      Did you actually read the article? It doesn’t sound like it.

  • Jonathan Erickson

    I see a couple polls have Trump leading Hillary so maybe you’ve heard Hillary “isn’t doing well in the polls”? Is it just cheap shots and innuendo you spew at the candidate who kicked your candidates ass up one side of the country and down the other. No need to answer. You would rather Trump lose the election so you could say I told you so then put the best interests of the country and world ahead your petty feelings. Back to the Bull Elephant safe space with you!

  • David Jackson

    The Bull Elephant has really gone down hill. None of the Trump supporters are bashful. Where on earth did you get that notion?TBE needs to remove you from it’s comment page. why don’t you try a Democrat blog?